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<p>[QUOTE="Morgan1878, post: 793475, member: 17869"]Can't disagree about any of this, except that at least part of the crisis was created by "citizens" of all stripes, in high and not so high places. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for bonuses, the argument is that there is a small pool of talent that deserves extraordinary pay, otherwise they will migrate to competitors. While bankers receive the brunt of the villainizing (every good story needs a villain, eh?), the same sort of thing goes on in other professions. Coaches get paid big money to jump to other schools, elite athletes take advantage of the "market" to land big contracts. Somehow, the public is more accepting of this type of largesse, perhaps because sports at least offer entertainment, something a banker will never be accused or capable of doing.</p><p><br /></p><p>With respect to AIG, it was reported in the Financial Times this week that the Feds investment in AIG contracts has so far netted about a 15 billion dollar profit. So, at least in this case taxpayers will probably get more than they paid in.</p><p><br /></p><p>Speaking of waste, let's not forget the absurd wars we continue to wage in Iraq and Afghanistan. If were talking about return on investment, we've dropped over a trillion without any meaningful return. Leaving the battlefield isn't necessarily a bad idea. We left Vietnam years ago and at the time it was thought by doing so, it would regress into a communist blackhole. To the contrary, it's becoming a vibrant economy. My favorite shirt is made in Vietnam. While Vietnam's not a democracy by any means, it's not North Korea either.</p><p><br /></p><p>The best analogy I've heard regarding the initial "stimulus", "bailout" "crisis management" or whatever you choose to call it involves a village. This village has a high dam above it that is ready to break. Action must be taken quickly. The villagers realize that when if the village is saved, not only will the law-abiding villagers be spared, but also the thieves, rapists and dregs of society. After the damn is secured, then other measures can be taken. Call it fine tuning. That's our next job.</p><p><br /></p><p>We're a democracy. We elect people to do a job. If they don't we vote them out. If their performance is sub-par and we continue to re-elect them, we only have ourselves to blame. The recent election in Massachusetts tells me this system is working. We are a large country of many racial, ethnic and economic groups. Of course it will be difficult to arrive at decisions that will please everyone. But that is our challenge and I am cautiously optimistic we will be able to find solutions. There will be missteps and I agree, there were plenty of them in the initial "stimulus" effort.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Morgan1878, post: 793475, member: 17869"]Can't disagree about any of this, except that at least part of the crisis was created by "citizens" of all stripes, in high and not so high places. As for bonuses, the argument is that there is a small pool of talent that deserves extraordinary pay, otherwise they will migrate to competitors. While bankers receive the brunt of the villainizing (every good story needs a villain, eh?), the same sort of thing goes on in other professions. Coaches get paid big money to jump to other schools, elite athletes take advantage of the "market" to land big contracts. Somehow, the public is more accepting of this type of largesse, perhaps because sports at least offer entertainment, something a banker will never be accused or capable of doing. With respect to AIG, it was reported in the Financial Times this week that the Feds investment in AIG contracts has so far netted about a 15 billion dollar profit. So, at least in this case taxpayers will probably get more than they paid in. Speaking of waste, let's not forget the absurd wars we continue to wage in Iraq and Afghanistan. If were talking about return on investment, we've dropped over a trillion without any meaningful return. Leaving the battlefield isn't necessarily a bad idea. We left Vietnam years ago and at the time it was thought by doing so, it would regress into a communist blackhole. To the contrary, it's becoming a vibrant economy. My favorite shirt is made in Vietnam. While Vietnam's not a democracy by any means, it's not North Korea either. The best analogy I've heard regarding the initial "stimulus", "bailout" "crisis management" or whatever you choose to call it involves a village. This village has a high dam above it that is ready to break. Action must be taken quickly. The villagers realize that when if the village is saved, not only will the law-abiding villagers be spared, but also the thieves, rapists and dregs of society. After the damn is secured, then other measures can be taken. Call it fine tuning. That's our next job. We're a democracy. We elect people to do a job. If they don't we vote them out. If their performance is sub-par and we continue to re-elect them, we only have ourselves to blame. The recent election in Massachusetts tells me this system is working. We are a large country of many racial, ethnic and economic groups. Of course it will be difficult to arrive at decisions that will please everyone. But that is our challenge and I am cautiously optimistic we will be able to find solutions. There will be missteps and I agree, there were plenty of them in the initial "stimulus" effort.[/QUOTE]
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