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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1609966, member: 26302"]Ok, Boeing, Walmart, KFC, Coca Cola, McDonalds, etc. There is a LOT of exporting being done, (think of Apple and Google). Those stuck in a mid 20th century mindset thinking only hard consumer goods equal prosperity are a century behind the times in my view.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, good paying manufacturing jobs for semi literate HS dropouts are gone. Sorry but they are. The US still has plenty of great paying jobs, (shortage of employees actually), for educated hard working employees. I see immigrants all of the time who came here with nothing and now are prosperous. This is still the country with the greatest opportunity in the world, and all you are advocating is a crutch for those with no skills to be paid for by every other American. You are basically advocating a tax on us all to be paid for those who refused to do anything in life to qualify them for more than unskilled labor.</p><p><br /></p><p>Might as well be called Cloud's OTHER welfare tax.</p><p><br /></p><p>Should the US do more to prevent other nations from taking advantage of us with currency manipulation, duties, etc? Absolutely. We shoudl treat every nation on earth how we are treated. If China manipulates their currency by 50%, then we should have a duty on Chinese goods of 50%. However, to have a duty just to "protect jobs" of those unwilling to gain better job skills I am 100% against.</p><p><br /></p><p>As long as the playing field is fair the US has nothing to worry about. The fact our gutless politicians do not ensure the playing field is fair is a completely different discussion. Like I said, I would support a duty on Chinese goods, not for your reason but because of the currency manipulation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1609966, member: 26302"]Ok, Boeing, Walmart, KFC, Coca Cola, McDonalds, etc. There is a LOT of exporting being done, (think of Apple and Google). Those stuck in a mid 20th century mindset thinking only hard consumer goods equal prosperity are a century behind the times in my view. Yes, good paying manufacturing jobs for semi literate HS dropouts are gone. Sorry but they are. The US still has plenty of great paying jobs, (shortage of employees actually), for educated hard working employees. I see immigrants all of the time who came here with nothing and now are prosperous. This is still the country with the greatest opportunity in the world, and all you are advocating is a crutch for those with no skills to be paid for by every other American. You are basically advocating a tax on us all to be paid for those who refused to do anything in life to qualify them for more than unskilled labor. Might as well be called Cloud's OTHER welfare tax. Should the US do more to prevent other nations from taking advantage of us with currency manipulation, duties, etc? Absolutely. We shoudl treat every nation on earth how we are treated. If China manipulates their currency by 50%, then we should have a duty on Chinese goods of 50%. However, to have a duty just to "protect jobs" of those unwilling to gain better job skills I am 100% against. As long as the playing field is fair the US has nothing to worry about. The fact our gutless politicians do not ensure the playing field is fair is a completely different discussion. Like I said, I would support a duty on Chinese goods, not for your reason but because of the currency manipulation.[/QUOTE]
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