Newp: Kelenderis, Cilicia Stater

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by iamtiberius, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. Kelenderis, modern day Aydıncık, Turkey; a coastal town on the south bank of Cilicia, directly north of Cyprus. Refer to map:

    Cilicia Map.png

    Kelenderis Stater adj.png
    Stater 425-380 BC
    Ephebus, unbearded, naked, holding whip, seated sideways on horse, galloping left / KEΛEN, goat kneeling left on dotted exergual line, head turned right.

    A lot of dealers/references change the spelling on Kelenderis and Cilicia but don't keep conformity. You would think they would keep C's with C's and k's with k's, i.e. - Kelenderis, Kilikia and Celenderis, Cilicia.

    I've been on a bit of an Archaic kick lately. This is one of my favorite acquisitions to arrive in the last few months. I don't think I've seen another on cointalk; for reference its dimensions are nearly identical to Boeotian Staters. It's a chunky piece of metal. Post your goats?

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Not a big fan of the obverse being off center but the reverse is great.
  4. At least we can tell he's unbearded... I don't know about the whip though. ha.
  5. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Well, no 'goats' that I recall...but I love yours---even if the obverse cuts off Ephebus a bit...
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Love that goat. Best I've seen.
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Very nice!

    I only have half a goat, part of a chimera. There are definitely a few goat coins on the shopping list though :).

    SIKYONIA, Sikyon.
    335-330 BCE

    AR stater, 23 mm, 12.3 gm
    Obv: Chimera standing left; wreath above, ΣE below
    Rev: Dove flying left; A to left; all within wreath
    Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 220; Traité III 775, pl. CCXX, 11
    CNG 342, from the "collection of a Southern Pathologist, purchased from C.H. Wolfe, 3 May 1989"

    Chimera: mythical beast; head, body and legs of a lion; sprouting the forepart of a goat from its back; snake tail.
  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    not baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.


    not baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad at all.
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian Supporter

    I think the superb goat more than makes up for the off-center obverse. Most of the obverse device is there anyway. Great coin!
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  10. I felt the same. I could have purchased one with a better centered obv and a slightly less detailed rev for around the same price; but the coin was shaped like a football. I do have another one on the way, though. Unfortunately, I think New York Customs likes it more than I do. :banghead:
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice => Fantastic new addition, iamtiberius (congrats on a great goat!!)

    Aeolis, Aegae: AE18
    3rd Cent. BC
    Diameter: 18.1mm
    Weight: 3.64 grams
    Obverse: Head of Apollo right
    Reverse: Goat's head right, AI in circle monogram behind

    Philip V
    221-179 BC
    Heracles & Two Goats
    two goats.jpg two goatsb.jpg

    Roman Republican, Mn Fonteius Cf, AR Denarius
    85 B.C.
    Rome Mint
    Diameter: 20mm
    Weight: 3.88 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head of Apollo Vejovis right, M FONTEI CF behind, thunderbolt below, ROMA monogram below chin
    Reverse: infant genius right goat right, caps of the Dioscuri above, filleted thyrsos below
    mn font a.jpg mn font b.jpg

    Valerian II. Caesar, AR Antoninianus
    mint of Colonia Agrippinensis (Cologne)
    256-258 AD
    Diameter: 22 mm
    Weight: 4.18 grams
    Obverse: VALERIANVS CAES, Radiate and draped bust right
    Reverse: IOVI CRESCENTI, Youthful Jupiter, head left, raising right hand, riding goat right
    Valerian II.jpg

    .... man, I love old goats!!
  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Does Bing know about this????
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ahahaha => yup, Bing knows all about my weakness for goats!!




    embarrassed goat.jpg
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  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Love your coins Steve !!!
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  15. I knew Steve wouldn't let the goat thread down.
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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Oh yeah! But that's a story for another day Mikey.
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  17. I've added two since and re-shot the original
    Kelenderis Stater 3.jpg

    Kelenderis Stater 1.png

    Kelenderis Stater 2.png
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice @iamtiberius. I would like any of the three. I wonder if there are any centered on the obverse showing the entire rider?
  19. In the early classical version; it's hard to find the obv and rev well centered, as well as the entire "KEΛEN" present. Most examples will auction at over 1000 USD
    Not my coin; but the best example I've seen:
    kelenderis Stater Early 2.jpg

    A Later Classical, Pre-Hellenistic Version: (Most are very well centered, but lose the artistry found in the Earlier versions, (also not my coin.))
    Kelenderis Stater Later.jpg
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great coins ... one day I'll have to save-up my coin-cash and splurge on one of these beauties (congrats, again)

    Oh => and now I know that there are left and right facing goats!! (gawd, now I need at least two of these sweet goat coins!!)
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  21. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Congrats guys!! So many super cool posts!!
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