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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;fretboard, post: 1661085, member: 19765&quot;]Many&nbsp; people bought them to trade or use them instead of dollars, that&#039;s what the whole gov&#039;t case was about. There were&nbsp; businesses using them instead of money that was the whole problem and&nbsp; that&#039;s what irked the Gov&#039;t in the first place.&nbsp; Not everyone collected&nbsp; them because they were coin collectors at all.&nbsp; People were spending&nbsp; them at Dave Gillie&#039;s restaurant and gas station too.&nbsp; They were&nbsp; definitely being used instead of US Dollars.&nbsp; Juan will chime in soon&nbsp; I&#039;m certain of it.&nbsp; ~kind regards</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/us/liberty-dollar-creator-awaits-his-fate-behind-bars.html?pagewanted=all&amp;_r=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/us/liberty-dollar-creator-awaits-his-fate-behind-bars.html?pagewanted=all&amp;_r=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/us/liberty-dollar-creator-awaits-his-fate-behind-bars.html?pagewanted=all&amp;_r=0</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&quot;Now jump ahead to 2004. A detective in Asheville, N.C., learned one day&nbsp; that a client of a credit union had to tried to pass a “fake coin” at&nbsp; one its local branches. An investigation determined that some business&nbsp; acquaintances of Mr. von NotHaus were, court papers say, allied with the&nbsp; <a href="http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/september-2011/sovereign-citizens" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/september-2011/sovereign-citizens" rel="nofollow">sovereign citizens’ movement</a>, an antigovernment group.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;Federal agents infiltrated the Liberty Dollar outfit as well as its educational arm, Liberty Dollar University.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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