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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1567486, member: 41665"]I would like to qualify my first comment, about Seasonality versus 'the storm.' Please think through the OP's premise, it's a devastating critique. </p><p><br /></p><p>First, ask: when did a 'storm' ever move the Price of Gold, in any currency at any time in history? I don't know the answer(s) but that is very germane to the OP's question.</p><p>I'd wonder any major wrecks of Spanish galleons of the <i>Flota de Indias </i>(for example, on July 30, 1715?) might have then moved money markets in Europe. (Storms, not drought/famine.) </p><p><br /></p><p>In modern times, I doubt there's ever been a correlation (storm + POG). We can find out, looking at the ten deadliest US hurricanes <u>and</u> POG charts over the next 1-2 months. Consider likewise, the 10 worst typhoons in India and POG in Rupees. What is the truth? There's data and an answer, definitely.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, I am concerned that global warming has created GREATER storm surges on the East Coast. Real scientists confirm this; shame on the Flat-Earthers and let's tune out the denial lunatics. ("There is no global warming...<span style="color: #ff0000">edited ~Political</span>!") In 1991, I endured 'The Perfect Storm' with 4-feet of water on the first floor (for a week) and 14 days without electricity. Very unfortunate for me and my family then, as for the NY/NJ folks now. But on the New England coast, these 'Once-In-A-Century' storms are now 'Once-In-A-Decade' or sooner. Time to get real about it, folks - we're all going to pay the price. Investors do need to think through the economic & financial impacts.</p><p><br /></p><p>We've let our infrastructure rot away over decades. In 1992, 'Hurricane Andrew' hinted how bad things had gotten. In 2005, 'Hurricane Katrina' showed the world - the USA is NOT PREPARED. Since then, we've NOT confronted the challenges, NOT made real progress. So predictably, YES there will be ever-increasing, more costly and more deadly consequences of US coastal storms. Insurance companies have accepted this FACT, already warned those paying attention. <b>The 'free market' is the proof,</b> look for premiums to soar. Why am I not surprised that many folks in flood-areas <i>still </i>don't have flood insurance? Because most people are still enmeshed in 'Greatest Nation' denial-excuses and 1990s fantasy thinking, that someone else will foot the bill, FEMA will cover it with a big fat check, etc. And the truth? We did NOT prepare.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a nation, <b>we really need to stop lying to ourselves </b>- this is NOT what happens in an affluent, well-organized, 'First World' country. Take a look, please.</p><p><a href="http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/03/14902263-freezing-temps-in-the-20s-power-still-out-for-millions-in-sandy-hit-areas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/03/14902263-freezing-temps-in-the-20s-power-still-out-for-millions-in-sandy-hit-areas" rel="nofollow">http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/03/14902263-freezing-temps-in-the-20s-power-still-out-for-millions-in-sandy-hit-areas</a></p><p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544755/n.y-n.j-governors-act-on-gas-shortages/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544755/n.y-n.j-governors-act-on-gas-shortages/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544755/n.y-n.j-governors-act-on-gas-shortages/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>So my qualification, based on the above, is straight-forward. </p><p><br /></p><p>1) POG has a major market in NYC. That market ought to be immune to 'the Weather!' as it always was.</p><p>2) IF - in the 21st Century! - 'storms' start to influence NY POG, then what does this say about <i>our market </i>& and <i>our currency</i> now?</p><p>3) "Got Gold?" LOL (My favorite answer, to almost every question.) </p><p><br /></p><p>Undeniably it's a very damning fact, proof again <i>global warming is all-too-real </i>in Dollars & Sense. We really ought to get a grip on both at long last, IMO. </p><p><br /></p><p>fwiw, I <u>don't</u> actually believe the Gold Market is now/yet vulnerable. I am more concerned the Stock Market <i>might </i>reflect this weakness, and the economy will suffer accordingly. But blamed on/caused by this weather, <i>a triggered sell-off in most asset classes </i>(including PMs) would <u>prove</u> that America has become very very weak indeed. Barring drought/famine or some cataclysmic event, that should never ever happen. Blame something ELSE!</p><p><br /></p><p>The WEATHER. Good Lord: how sad & pathetic. Let's hope not.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1567486, member: 41665"]I would like to qualify my first comment, about Seasonality versus 'the storm.' Please think through the OP's premise, it's a devastating critique. First, ask: when did a 'storm' ever move the Price of Gold, in any currency at any time in history? I don't know the answer(s) but that is very germane to the OP's question. I'd wonder any major wrecks of Spanish galleons of the [I]Flota de Indias [/I](for example, on July 30, 1715?) might have then moved money markets in Europe. (Storms, not drought/famine.) In modern times, I doubt there's ever been a correlation (storm + POG). We can find out, looking at the ten deadliest US hurricanes [U]and[/U] POG charts over the next 1-2 months. Consider likewise, the 10 worst typhoons in India and POG in Rupees. What is the truth? There's data and an answer, definitely. Second, I am concerned that global warming has created GREATER storm surges on the East Coast. Real scientists confirm this; shame on the Flat-Earthers and let's tune out the denial lunatics. ("There is no global warming...[COLOR=#ff0000]edited ~Political[/COLOR]!") In 1991, I endured 'The Perfect Storm' with 4-feet of water on the first floor (for a week) and 14 days without electricity. Very unfortunate for me and my family then, as for the NY/NJ folks now. But on the New England coast, these 'Once-In-A-Century' storms are now 'Once-In-A-Decade' or sooner. Time to get real about it, folks - we're all going to pay the price. Investors do need to think through the economic & financial impacts. We've let our infrastructure rot away over decades. In 1992, 'Hurricane Andrew' hinted how bad things had gotten. In 2005, 'Hurricane Katrina' showed the world - the USA is NOT PREPARED. Since then, we've NOT confronted the challenges, NOT made real progress. So predictably, YES there will be ever-increasing, more costly and more deadly consequences of US coastal storms. Insurance companies have accepted this FACT, already warned those paying attention. [B]The 'free market' is the proof,[/B] look for premiums to soar. Why am I not surprised that many folks in flood-areas [I]still [/I]don't have flood insurance? Because most people are still enmeshed in 'Greatest Nation' denial-excuses and 1990s fantasy thinking, that someone else will foot the bill, FEMA will cover it with a big fat check, etc. And the truth? We did NOT prepare. As a nation, [B]we really need to stop lying to ourselves [/B]- this is NOT what happens in an affluent, well-organized, 'First World' country. Take a look, please. [URL]http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/03/14902263-freezing-temps-in-the-20s-power-still-out-for-millions-in-sandy-hit-areas[/URL] [URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544755/n.y-n.j-governors-act-on-gas-shortages/[/URL] So my qualification, based on the above, is straight-forward. 1) POG has a major market in NYC. That market ought to be immune to 'the Weather!' as it always was. 2) IF - in the 21st Century! - 'storms' start to influence NY POG, then what does this say about [I]our market [/I]& and [I]our currency[/I] now? 3) "Got Gold?" LOL (My favorite answer, to almost every question.) Undeniably it's a very damning fact, proof again [I]global warming is all-too-real [/I]in Dollars & Sense. We really ought to get a grip on both at long last, IMO. fwiw, I [U]don't[/U] actually believe the Gold Market is now/yet vulnerable. I am more concerned the Stock Market [I]might [/I]reflect this weakness, and the economy will suffer accordingly. But blamed on/caused by this weather, [I]a triggered sell-off in most asset classes [/I](including PMs) would [U]prove[/U] that America has become very very weak indeed. Barring drought/famine or some cataclysmic event, that should never ever happen. Blame something ELSE! The WEATHER. Good Lord: how sad & pathetic. Let's hope not.[/QUOTE]
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