My strategy of buying the UHR Eagles

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by taurus876, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    What about ASEs?
     
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  3. hfd12316

    hfd12316 Senior Member

    While I have ordered from the Mint in the past, I was wondering how the wait list works as far as when will they charge my credit card. When I order or when they actually ship the item? I haven't ordered any wait list items in the past.
     
  4. StephenS

    StephenS Member

    I got the little catalog/brochure for this in yesterday's mail, but they didn't include the price in it. I think they need to add a disclaimer at the bottom of one of the pages that reads:

    * - Mint not responsible for you swallowing your tongue when you see the actual price.

    I should have posted this last night....it seemed a lot funnier to me then
     
  5. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    If you are suggesting that the ASEs that the Mint sells are bullion, it is my understanding that they are not.

    Bullion is sold by bullion dealers. Bullion comes in plastic tubes and monster boxes. Bullion does not have a mintmark. The Mint does not sell bullion directly to the public.

    The mint sells collector coins. The mint sells Proof ASEs and Burnished ASEs with the W mintmark. These are collector coins. They come packaged individually in faux felt lined boxes with certificates of authenticty.
     
  6. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Your price will be determined when you place your order. For example, if you order tomorrow and the price was $1189, but next week the price goes up to $1300... you will be charged the $1189 since you placed your order when it was that price.
     
  7. holz

    holz holz

    Is this a one year issue? also is the price going to change weekly?
     
  8. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Yes and Yes, allegedly.
     
  9. taz

    taz devilish for coins

  10. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    If it opens at $1,239, I'm out. To rich for my blood.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Don't suppose any of you guys read this part did ya ?

     
  12. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    So Doug, are you implying that there may be only a few planchets for this or are you implying that there will be many avail for this?

    6-9 Months waiting period could go either way I suppose?


    RickieB
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It seems pretty straight forward to me. If they get a lot of orders what they have in stock will be gone in a hurry. All other orders will wait until they get more planchet stock.

    But since the coins are minted to demand, you will get your coin. You just may have to wait until next year to get it, depending on when you order it.
     
  14. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Thanks...that is how I took your implication. Just wanted your opinion.

    Regards,

    RickieB
     
  15. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Well here it is....from Numis News!!


    Eager collectors trying to buy the proof 2009 Ultra High Relief Saint-Gaudens $20 gold piece slowed the U.S. Mint's Web site and backed up its 800 number for a time Jan. 22 when the new coin went on sale at noon Eastern Time.

    By the end of the day, collectors were e-mailing Numismatic News with reports that they had successfully purchased the coin at the issue price of $1,189 each, with confirmed delivery by Feb. 6.

    During the first four days of sales, the Mint said it sold 40,727 of the coins, generating $48.4 million in revenue by noon Jan. 26.
    The Mint is limiting orders to one per household during the opening days of the coin's availability to assure the widest and fairest distribution. It might strike up to 300,000 of the coins if collector orders reach that level.

    Though it resembles the Saint-Gaudens gold $20, it has a smaller diameter of 27mm and is more than 50 percent thicker than a regular pre-1933 $10 gold piece, which has the same diameter. It contains one troy ounce of .9999 fine gold.

    The $20 coin of that size was never produced for circulation. It was the brainchild of Augustus Saint-Gaudens, who in 1907 was attempting to fulfill a dream of President Theodore Roosevelt to create a new American coinage worthy of the ancient Greeks.

    High relief and increased thickness were characteristics that proved unsuitable both for mass production and use in commerce.

    The gold coin's price changes each week to take into account the fluctuating price of gold. The second week's price was $1,239, effective Jan. 29.



    RickieB
     
  16. giorgio11

    giorgio11 Senior Numismatist

    To my way of thinking, this coin combines the Best of Both Worlds. It is more or less faithful to Saint-Gaudens' original vision for the design (albeit somewhat smaller), and thus is certainly a collector coin, and a beautiful work of art. That is why I ordered mine on the first day, and I intend to keep it. BUT ... It is also protected from downside risk by being a pure ounce of gold. Not too bad when gold is today, what, $920? I see where the Mint repriced them up 50 bucks. Not that that really matters to me in the short or long run. I would be extremely upset, though, if I had waited until later in the year to order, and then another shortage of planchets occurred so that I missed the boat. This is not a recommendation to anybody else, just what I am doing and thinking. :thumb:

    Best Regards,

    George
    ==========================
    VDB Coins
     
  17. HAGOP

    HAGOP Member

    does anybody know how many UHR Eagles had been sold so far?
     
  18. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Yep!! Read a few posts up where I inserted info from Numismatic News!
    That will give you a good Idea. I am sure it is past 50,000 at this point...
    Nice coin...but I think it will be a high mintage coin as well.

    RickieB
     
  19. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    We shall see how many orders get cancelled. Hoping all the ones after my dads. (sorry if you are after him)
     
  20. MoneyHungry

    MoneyHungry angel in a earth suit

    I saw a Ultra High Relief Double Eagle at the Mandalaly Bay Casino in Las Vegas. It was beautiful to look at. This version is supposed to be smaller in diameter but I am looking forward to having it anyway.
     
  21. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    I am most likely canceling my order. I hope I don't come to regret this. Sorry Ken, I know how long we talked about getting this coin. As much as I am disappointed that I will not be buying this coin, I am excited at what 2009 will bring. Two wonderful commems. The special Lincoln set. 5 First Spouse coins!!! and the Buffalo proof. Also don't forget the ASEs. So my year is booked. I rather spend money on coins that I need to continue my sets rather than a one year issue coin that has no mintage limits and will most likely sell above 100k. Now I am going to hold off canceling my order for as long as I can because I want to see how sales are going before I make my decision. But there is a chance that I may still get it because if gold continues to go up, I will have bought it at the lowest price. I am just afraid because once i get it in hand, I may not want to get rid of it.
     
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