Modern Coins in Ancient Style

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  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  3. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Mysore's puppet king, Krishnaraja Wodeyar III AV Fanam
    Early 19th century, roughly contemporary with US Capped Bust coinage
    Mysore Krishnaraja wodeyar III fanam.jpg

    Chinese empire, Puyi, contemporary to the first few million wheat pennies
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    (Sorry about the orientation)
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    krw 10 cash.jpg

    Mysore: Krishna Raja Wodeyar, 1799-1868.
    Æ 10 Cash, 18mm, 4.4g, 12h.
    Obv.: Lion to the left with right paw upraised, sun, moon and stars above; date 1833 below; linear border.
    Rev.: ಕೃಷ್ಣ (Krishna) and ضرب میسور (Struck at Mysore) on the field; ಮಯಿಲಿ ಕಾಸು ೧೦ (Mayili Kasu 10); linear border.
    Reference: C#191.2


    krw 20 cash.jpg

    Krishna Raja Wodeyar, 1799-1868
    Æ 20 Cash, 22mm, 9.1g, 6h.
    Obv.: Lion to the left with right paw upraised; Kannada legend above - ಶ್ರೀ ಚಾಮುಂಡಿ (Sri Chamundi) with sun and moon between ಶ್ರೀ (Sri); date 1834 below the lion; dotted border.
    Rev.: ಕೃಷ್ಣ (Krishna) and ضرب میسور (Struck at Mysore) on the field; ಮಯಿಲಿ ಕಾಸು ೨೦ (Mayili Kasu 20) , MEILEE XX CASH in margin; dotted border.
    Reference: C#193.2
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

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    INDIA, Mysore, Tipu Sultan, 1782-1799
    Æ 1/2 Paisa, 16x19mm, 5.4g, 12h; Bangalore mint, AD 1790/1
    Obv.: Elephant right, date above: 1218 (Mauludi Calendar).
    Rev.: Zarb Bangalore on a field ornamented with dotted rosettes, within a circle; dotted border.
    Reference: Henderson 368, p. 89, same dies.


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    INDIA, Mysore, Tipu Sultan, 1782-1799
    Æ 1 Paisa, 18mm, 5.6g, 12h; Patan mint.
    Obv.: Elephant right, 1 above.
    Rev.: Zarb Patan (Minted in Patan), 1221 (= AD 1792/3).
    Reference: Taylor, George. The Coins of Tipu Sultan. Plate 2, #6.
     
  6. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Finally found my picture.

    It's crazy to think about how late hammered coins were still being produced in India. The Bundi rupees are among my favorites, mainly for the silly, lopsided English lettering, and because they are all dated. They prided themselves on their well-made Katars (push daggers) which feature on all coins after Victoria chose one to be displayed at her 1886 Golden Jubilee. The mint was shut down in 1932, and never made modern milled or machined coins. This one dates to 1925.

    Bundi rupee George V 1982 1925.jpg

    Obv: GEORGE V EMPEROR around Katar
    Rev: BUNDI RAMA SINGHA 1982 (in Devanagari)

    Think about it: there are people alive today who probably used these coins as a child!
     
  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    That's an exceptionally nice example too. As you probably know, most of them are much cruder.
     
  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

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    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Yeah, I got this one from @John Anthony JUST for the very reason of his OP! :)

    Bhutan AE Half-Rupee 21mm 4.8g Period III 1835-1910 CE Geometric patterns letter SaRef KM 7.1.JPG
    Bhutan
    Æ 1/2 rupee (Deb); 21mm, 4.8g, 6h; Period III, 1835-1910
    Obv.: Geometric pattern
    Reverse.: Geometric pattern with letter sa.
    Reference: KM 7.1

    From the Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1801-1900, George S. Cuhaj, Thomas Michael...

    The kingdom of Bhutan, a landlocked Himalayan country bordered by Tibet and India, has an area of 18,150 sq. mi. Capital: Thimphu. Virtually the entire population is engaged in agricultural and pastoral activities. Rice, wheat, barley, and yak butter are produced in sufficient quantity to make the country self-sufficient in food. The economy of Bhutan is primitive, and many transactions are conducted on a barter basis.

    Bhutan’s early history is obscure, but is thought to have resembled that of rural medieval Europe. The country was conquered by Tibet in the 9th century, and a dual temporal spiritual rule developed which operated until the mid 19th-century, when the southern part of the country was occupied by the British and annexed to British India. Bhutan was established as a hereditary monarchy in 1907, and in 1910 agreed to British control of its affairs.


    Here is a brass 1/2 rupee or Deb of the period 1835-1910 - these modern hammered issues cannot be dated more specifically. A wonderful, well-struck, clean example of the type. Catalogs describe the coins as having “geometric patterns.” I would love to know something more about their meaning, but so far I’ve come up empty-handed.
     
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  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I always pick up "modern" coins that were produced in old school ways when I get a chance. Here are few fairly recently coins ...


    This is a cast coin...

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    Morocco, 4 Falus, 1871 (AH 1288)

    Cast bronze, 27 mm, 11.1 g, km c# 166.1

    Some other's I've picked up in the last year or so, they are all mid to late 19th century.

    Afghanistan, 1878 rupee..


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    ...and a couple from India.


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    INDIA, French Pondicherry

    Æ Doudou, 16mm, 4.0g, 12h; c. AD 1720-1837 Obv.: Fleur de lis. Rev.: 3-line Tamil legend, naming the mint: Pu du / ch e r / i Reference: KM 35

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    INDIA, ELICHPUR (HYDERABAD FEUDATORY): Copper paisa. Mid 19th century.

    O: Lion left, R: legend. 18 mm, 11.1 g.
     
  12. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    I'll need to dig it back out, but one of those Moroccan fals was actually one of the first coins I ever identified. My grandfather bought it in a junk bin as a teenager in the 40s, and I was convinced it was from the year 1212 (actually 1272). It was years later when I figured it out, and I was so disappointed that 1272 AH is roughly 1855! It is much more crude and genuinely looks ancient.

    @Alegandron I believe those Burmese 1/2 rupees are actually supposed to be inscribed on both sides. They are descended from the silver 1/2 rupees of Cooch Behar:
    https://www.marudhararts.com/e-auct...rupee-of-upendra-narayan-of-cooch-behar-.html

    I haven't felt like picking one of those up (I try to stick to rupees only for my own sanity) but I do have this one which, minted in 1555 kinda-sorta qualifies for this thread:
    Cooch behar rupee nara narayan 1555.jpg
     
  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thanks @Finn235 ! Got this on a whim, and never drilled down. I see Bhutan is just north of Cooch Behar, so that makes a lot of sense. I appreciate the direction.

    I have been close to Bhutan a couple times, but never went on to go there. Unfortunately, when you are on bidness trips, you cannot digress as much as you would like to!

    I picked up some Bhutan and Tibetan religious chants CDs during one of my trips into Western China. Maybe I can see if some of the script is similar. Of course if I want to get motivated, I could look up the language of Bhutan... but, this is my only coin of theirs. :)
     
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  14. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Late to the game....here is one of my many hammered modern era coins:)
    AV Pagoda ND struck circa 1740-1807
    Fort St. George Mint
    British East India Company/ Madras Presidency 1be0d56000115ae09619207d01a8bf0d.jpg
     
  15. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    This gold fanam looks like it could be an ancient coin (really < 300 years old - or possibly a modern counterfeit) IMG_2297.jpg
    Obv: Degenerate Kali with the Tanjore rosette on the breast
    Rev: Blank
    6mm, 0.4 grams.
    Tuticorin mint

    I personally like the way the edges of this coin look up close.
     
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