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<p>[QUOTE="Prime Mover, post: 1759062, member: 38783"]Medoraman, I certainly agree with the concern that there seems to be insufficient hard language exactly defining whether a collector selling coins as part of the hobby is considered a "bullion dealer".</p><p> </p><p>But, it looks to me like "normal" folks may be off the hook here:</p><p> </p><p><u><span style="font-size: 17px"><font face="times new roman"><span style="color: #333333">(b) A bullion coin dealer does not include any of the following persons:</span></font></span></u></p><p><u><span style="font-size: 17px"><font face="times new roman"><span style="color: #333333">(2) a person who engages only in transactions at occasional garage or yard sales </span></font></span></u></p><p><u><span style="font-size: 17px"><font face="times new roman"><span style="color: #333333">held at the seller's residence, farm auctions held at the seller's residence, or estate sales </span></font></span></u></p><p><u><span style="font-size: 17px"><font face="times new roman"><span style="color: #333333">held at the decedent's residence;</span></font></span></u></p><p><u><span style="font-size: 17px"><font face="times new roman"><span style="color: #333333">(5) a person who engages only in transactions at occasional trade shows where the </span></font></span></u></p><p><u><span style="font-size: 17px"><font face="times new roman"><span style="color: #333333">consumer is present and the transaction is made at the trade show; or</span></font></span></u></p><p> </p><p>To me - and I'm certainly NOT a lawyer - the above reads favorable to collectors, at least in some areas like coin shows. Although it's specific about some instances where you can sell items and not be considered a dealer, it's a little too specific. I'm willing to go as far as saying I'd be hard pressed to believe they'd include sales and purchases in a "hobbyist" setting - online, at a coffee shop, craigslist, etc. However I'd rather not be the guinea pig on finding that out, especially with it not really defined well in black and white. Things left open for interpretation usually favor those on the law enforcing end, not on the receiving end.</p><p> </p><p>Is it a little more grey for someone who is not a real business but operates an eBay "storefront"? Yeah, I'd be a little worried without more clarification on that also.</p><p> </p><p>Well intentioned law? Yeah, I'd go that far. But I'd also say it's far from being very clear for a lot of scenarios and is dangerous as worded (or moreso not).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Prime Mover, post: 1759062, member: 38783"]Medoraman, I certainly agree with the concern that there seems to be insufficient hard language exactly defining whether a collector selling coins as part of the hobby is considered a "bullion dealer". But, it looks to me like "normal" folks may be off the hook here: [U][SIZE=17px][FONT=times new roman][COLOR=#333333](b) A bullion coin dealer does not include any of the following persons:[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/U] [U][SIZE=17px][FONT=times new roman][COLOR=#333333](2) a person who engages only in transactions at occasional garage or yard sales [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/U] [U][SIZE=17px][FONT=times new roman][COLOR=#333333]held at the seller's residence, farm auctions held at the seller's residence, or estate sales [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/U] [U][SIZE=17px][FONT=times new roman][COLOR=#333333]held at the decedent's residence;[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/U] [U][SIZE=17px][FONT=times new roman][COLOR=#333333](5) a person who engages only in transactions at occasional trade shows where the [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/U] [U][SIZE=17px][FONT=times new roman][COLOR=#333333]consumer is present and the transaction is made at the trade show; or[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/U] To me - and I'm certainly NOT a lawyer - the above reads favorable to collectors, at least in some areas like coin shows. Although it's specific about some instances where you can sell items and not be considered a dealer, it's a little too specific. I'm willing to go as far as saying I'd be hard pressed to believe they'd include sales and purchases in a "hobbyist" setting - online, at a coffee shop, craigslist, etc. However I'd rather not be the guinea pig on finding that out, especially with it not really defined well in black and white. Things left open for interpretation usually favor those on the law enforcing end, not on the receiving end. Is it a little more grey for someone who is not a real business but operates an eBay "storefront"? Yeah, I'd be a little worried without more clarification on that also. Well intentioned law? Yeah, I'd go that far. But I'd also say it's far from being very clear for a lot of scenarios and is dangerous as worded (or moreso not).[/QUOTE]
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