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<p>[QUOTE="frech001, post: 2456198, member: 20616"]Well, I wouldn't say your "other words" didn't reflect at all what I said, but rather how they probably were interpreted by someone who just opposes any government control. To the effect that this regulation put some dealers out of business, they either couldn't pass the background check, couldn't get a bond because of their record or were so small they couldn't afford a $25.00 registration fee and the price of a bond, generally 1% of the bond amount for a business with a good record. For the first year of this law, that was maybe $75.00 total. If someone went out of business over that they really didn't have much of a business. If you drive a car you need a driver's license, a license plate on your car and liability insurance. I suspect that is standard in all states. Do you object to those "taxes" as well? And I suspect those laws keep many people from driving. Would you prefer something less? Probably not. Then the issue is about whether or not things were bad enough in Minnesota with bullion dealers to warrant this new approach. That is up to Minnesotans to decide and we did through our elected state senators, representatives and Governor. And apparently our elected officials listened to people who wanted that original law modified and they did that. That is how government functions in a democratic republic, at least that is how it should function. Unfortunately, and increasingly so, since the Supreme Court ruled on Citizens United, many of our elected officials seem to be listening to louder voices than yours and mine. But that is an issue for a political blog.</p><p><br /></p><p>An alternative is for coin and bullion dealers to form a professional association and police their own members and for states to recognize the integrity of their association as a means to limit practitioners of this trade. I was in three such professional associations in my career and nationally registered by each professional association in a different field of service. Minnesota and most other states recognized and accepted my credentials in lieu of their own requirements. I paid annual dues to my associations and not what some consider taxes to a state. I had a voice in my associations about what it should take to be registered by them and they provided ongoing training opportunities required to maintain my registration. Both systems eliminate some people from business, both increase the cost for those who acquire the credentials necessary and both provide some assurance to the "customers". Another advantage of the recognized professional credentialing is that those so credentialed don't need to pay separate fees to each state they practice in or deal with different requirements. The ANA could offer such a service and negotiate with states for recognition and reciprocity. What do those of you who object to "big government" think about this approach?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="frech001, post: 2456198, member: 20616"]Well, I wouldn't say your "other words" didn't reflect at all what I said, but rather how they probably were interpreted by someone who just opposes any government control. To the effect that this regulation put some dealers out of business, they either couldn't pass the background check, couldn't get a bond because of their record or were so small they couldn't afford a $25.00 registration fee and the price of a bond, generally 1% of the bond amount for a business with a good record. For the first year of this law, that was maybe $75.00 total. If someone went out of business over that they really didn't have much of a business. If you drive a car you need a driver's license, a license plate on your car and liability insurance. I suspect that is standard in all states. Do you object to those "taxes" as well? And I suspect those laws keep many people from driving. Would you prefer something less? Probably not. Then the issue is about whether or not things were bad enough in Minnesota with bullion dealers to warrant this new approach. That is up to Minnesotans to decide and we did through our elected state senators, representatives and Governor. And apparently our elected officials listened to people who wanted that original law modified and they did that. That is how government functions in a democratic republic, at least that is how it should function. Unfortunately, and increasingly so, since the Supreme Court ruled on Citizens United, many of our elected officials seem to be listening to louder voices than yours and mine. But that is an issue for a political blog. An alternative is for coin and bullion dealers to form a professional association and police their own members and for states to recognize the integrity of their association as a means to limit practitioners of this trade. I was in three such professional associations in my career and nationally registered by each professional association in a different field of service. Minnesota and most other states recognized and accepted my credentials in lieu of their own requirements. I paid annual dues to my associations and not what some consider taxes to a state. I had a voice in my associations about what it should take to be registered by them and they provided ongoing training opportunities required to maintain my registration. Both systems eliminate some people from business, both increase the cost for those who acquire the credentials necessary and both provide some assurance to the "customers". Another advantage of the recognized professional credentialing is that those so credentialed don't need to pay separate fees to each state they practice in or deal with different requirements. The ANA could offer such a service and negotiate with states for recognition and reciprocity. What do those of you who object to "big government" think about this approach?[/QUOTE]
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