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<p>[QUOTE="fatima, post: 1076932, member: 22143"]So if you are suggesting that it would be profitable for a refiner to call up a bank(s), order up several truck loads of nickels, have them delivered to the refinery, and dumped into the refining process because this would be cheaper? I don't think this idea intersects with reality. These are the reasons.</p><p><br /></p><ul> <li>Refiners operate in quantities that fill trains. Visit a metal refiner and you will always find a railroad spur. How do you fill a train with nickels</li> <li>Nobody has explained how sufficient quantities of nickel coins could be delivered to a refiner to make refining the copper and other metals out of it profitable. We are talking about multiple tons of metal being handled at each pass. (this isn't like melting silver and gold)</li> <li>Refiners operate on the business of taking unusable material and making it into the usable. This is their value add. Nickels are already a refined product so there is no profit in attempting to refine it into another product.</li> <li>Refiners profits are based on scrap costs. This normally far less than "melt value".</li> </ul><p><br /></p><p>I continue to maintain that the "concept" of coin hording because coins are worth more than the metal is just that, a "concept". There is no economic case for doing it. Arguments that people will horde items because they think there is profit in it, is an opinion, but it doesn't change the realities that it isn't happening.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="fatima, post: 1076932, member: 22143"]So if you are suggesting that it would be profitable for a refiner to call up a bank(s), order up several truck loads of nickels, have them delivered to the refinery, and dumped into the refining process because this would be cheaper? I don't think this idea intersects with reality. These are the reasons. [LIST] [*]Refiners operate in quantities that fill trains. Visit a metal refiner and you will always find a railroad spur. How do you fill a train with nickels [*]Nobody has explained how sufficient quantities of nickel coins could be delivered to a refiner to make refining the copper and other metals out of it profitable. We are talking about multiple tons of metal being handled at each pass. (this isn't like melting silver and gold) [*]Refiners operate on the business of taking unusable material and making it into the usable. This is their value add. Nickels are already a refined product so there is no profit in attempting to refine it into another product. [*]Refiners profits are based on scrap costs. This normally far less than "melt value". [/LIST] I continue to maintain that the "concept" of coin hording because coins are worth more than the metal is just that, a "concept". There is no economic case for doing it. Arguments that people will horde items because they think there is profit in it, is an opinion, but it doesn't change the realities that it isn't happening.[/QUOTE]
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