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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Cloudsweeper99, post: 1479131, member: 3011&quot;]Let&#039;s review:</p><p><br /></p><p>high frequency trading</p><p>black boxes</p><p>flash crashes</p><p>front running</p><p>regulators permitting short selling</p><p>concentrated positions</p><p><br /></p><p>Which one of these do you equate with the silver manipulation whereby it is claimed that a group of large banks collude to keep the price lower than it should be.&nbsp; What is it that you don&#039;t understand about the difference between the statements &quot;the market is not honest&quot; and &quot;the market is manipulated&quot;?&nbsp; If you think these statements are equivalent, I can&#039;t help you because you lack a basic understanding of the issue.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit:&nbsp; Let me explain it to you another way, since you aren&#039;t getting it.&nbsp; There are a number of large market participants that are competing with each other using techniques and trading privileges not available to small investors, and their techniques cause increased volitility.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Do you equate competition with manipulation???[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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