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<p>[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1285417, member: 3011"]First let me say that I'm not convinced that the money supply is actually shrinking, but it also probably isn't growing as much as the Fed would want. </p><p><br /></p><p>Interest rates and labor costs are a huge difference from the 1970s [I'm not even convinced yet that there can be systemic inflation without rising labor costs]. Food and energy are excluded from core inflation but not from the CPI or GDP deflator. The money in circulation declines when borrowing goes down, not because of payments to China. Remember, the money is the debt and the debt is the money. Reductions in outstanding debt have the same effect as reducing the money supply, and offset the Fed's effort at stimulus. I know the government is running up a lot of debt, but private debt reductions and defaults are cancelling a lot of it out to some extent.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1285417, member: 3011"]First let me say that I'm not convinced that the money supply is actually shrinking, but it also probably isn't growing as much as the Fed would want. Interest rates and labor costs are a huge difference from the 1970s [I'm not even convinced yet that there can be systemic inflation without rising labor costs]. Food and energy are excluded from core inflation but not from the CPI or GDP deflator. The money in circulation declines when borrowing goes down, not because of payments to China. Remember, the money is the debt and the debt is the money. Reductions in outstanding debt have the same effect as reducing the money supply, and offset the Fed's effort at stimulus. I know the government is running up a lot of debt, but private debt reductions and defaults are cancelling a lot of it out to some extent.[/QUOTE]
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