Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Bullion Investing
>
Just my own personal thoughts on silver and the un-easy market conditions.
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 1213138, member: 15199"]<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">And basically , that is how it used to be more or less until the Hunt's adventure into silver. Actually their game plan was excellent. they just didn't think that the rules could change as they went about accumulating, but they did, and they couldn't reach the margin without large selling, and the fall began ( at least as I saw it).</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Until the ETF such as SLV, GLD, etc. the retail trader ( me and probably most on the board) couldn't handle whole contracts. The bankers saw a desire for such trading and developed these trusts. Do they have a large advantage? YES!, they wrote the trust papers. Physical delivery to a non-participant trustee is almost impossible, extremely expensive , and inconvenient. Since they rarely have to deliver physical, they only have to have the amount needed to satisfy the trust minimum, as 99.999 % of SLV deals in the paper form.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Even for the big boys who need physical silver, such as private mint suppliers, jewelry industry, automotive, etc. can not do the margin thing all of the way. At a particular point ( I seem to remember 1 month before expiry, but not sure), they have to come up with the full amount of cash to continue the contract. Otherwise they sell or accept cash as the possible payout, so they do not have many contracts going to physical either.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">I read other forums where there are rants that silver is illegally manipulated; I doubt this, not that it is being manipulated, but that it is not illegally being done so. It doesn't have to be because the rules and regulations protect the exchanges and big commodity brokers firstmost. </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">If SLV has much less physical silver than shares for it, it doesn't mean much as few of those shares can be converted to physical according to the prospectus of the trust. </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Jim</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 1213138, member: 15199"][LEFT][COLOR=#000000] And basically , that is how it used to be more or less until the Hunt's adventure into silver. Actually their game plan was excellent. they just didn't think that the rules could change as they went about accumulating, but they did, and they couldn't reach the margin without large selling, and the fall began ( at least as I saw it). Until the ETF such as SLV, GLD, etc. the retail trader ( me and probably most on the board) couldn't handle whole contracts. The bankers saw a desire for such trading and developed these trusts. Do they have a large advantage? YES!, they wrote the trust papers. Physical delivery to a non-participant trustee is almost impossible, extremely expensive , and inconvenient. Since they rarely have to deliver physical, they only have to have the amount needed to satisfy the trust minimum, as 99.999 % of SLV deals in the paper form. Even for the big boys who need physical silver, such as private mint suppliers, jewelry industry, automotive, etc. can not do the margin thing all of the way. At a particular point ( I seem to remember 1 month before expiry, but not sure), they have to come up with the full amount of cash to continue the contract. Otherwise they sell or accept cash as the possible payout, so they do not have many contracts going to physical either. I read other forums where there are rants that silver is illegally manipulated; I doubt this, not that it is being manipulated, but that it is not illegally being done so. It doesn't have to be because the rules and regulations protect the exchanges and big commodity brokers firstmost. If SLV has much less physical silver than shares for it, it doesn't mean much as few of those shares can be converted to physical according to the prospectus of the trust. Jim [/COLOR][/LEFT][/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Bullion Investing
>
Just my own personal thoughts on silver and the un-easy market conditions.
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...