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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1668930, member: 26302"]The fact the margin exists is proof of manipulation? You are not argue against manipulation, you are just saying any market that is not 100% physical is not a true market. Just say that then, because saying margin on either side of the transaction is "proof" of manipulation is silly. Since all contracts have to have a counterparty, that means the buyers of silver are just as "manipulative".</p><p><br /></p><p>Like I have said before, there are REASONS why paper markets were invented. Physical markets are 1000 times more susceptible to manipulation than paper ones. If you think the paper market is manipulated downward, then call their bluff and pony up the money to take physical possession of a contract or two. </p><p><br /></p><p>Seriously, do those crying manipulation really think no one is as smart as they? You don't think if the silver traders knew silver was being manipulated that they wouldn't all be taking physical delivery of all of the silver? Why isn't Buffett putting up the money to take physical possession of $20 billion in silver? Sorry, but it just drives me nuts how all of these tiny holders of silver are firmly convinced of their own intellectual superiority, and how they can clearly see the manipulation while those who REALLY have the money and the ability to profit handsomely cannot.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1668930, member: 26302"]The fact the margin exists is proof of manipulation? You are not argue against manipulation, you are just saying any market that is not 100% physical is not a true market. Just say that then, because saying margin on either side of the transaction is "proof" of manipulation is silly. Since all contracts have to have a counterparty, that means the buyers of silver are just as "manipulative". Like I have said before, there are REASONS why paper markets were invented. Physical markets are 1000 times more susceptible to manipulation than paper ones. If you think the paper market is manipulated downward, then call their bluff and pony up the money to take physical possession of a contract or two. Seriously, do those crying manipulation really think no one is as smart as they? You don't think if the silver traders knew silver was being manipulated that they wouldn't all be taking physical delivery of all of the silver? Why isn't Buffett putting up the money to take physical possession of $20 billion in silver? Sorry, but it just drives me nuts how all of these tiny holders of silver are firmly convinced of their own intellectual superiority, and how they can clearly see the manipulation while those who REALLY have the money and the ability to profit handsomely cannot.[/QUOTE]
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