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<p>[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 1316609, member: 15199"]I would like to caution any such article over a month old, as a year is almost a financial eternity when it comes to derivatives. Secondly, this article gives more details on ETFs if one is interested.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange-traded_fund" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange-traded_fund" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange-traded_fund</a></p><p><br /></p><p>One thing that I find is never mentioned is that such articles look at the shares of GLD or SLV being outstanding and then add the call options , but ignore the number of short options. In actuality, the number of call options and the number of put ( short) options such as on SLV ( so called paper silver) offset each other on expiration with payouts going in cash ( NOT physical silver). Those who hold the SLV stock in less than a basket ( 50,000 shares) can only exchange it for cash, not physical. Those over 50,000 shares must be a partner in the trust or work through a partner (such as JPM) to convert to physical with conversion charges. </p><p><br /></p><p>What this means is that only the partners could cause a run on the trust for physical. The rest would have to settle with cash. There has not been any evidence that in the US , any member has illegally shorted "naked". Some foreign branches associated could have, as in some world exchanges, naked shorting is not monitored. But remember that the SEC gives rather long settlement and reporting dates for "naked shorting" in the US, sometimes 30 days or longer. Thus a US concern or investor ( if you are rich enough or a politician ) could legally "naked" short and cover after 29 days. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you want physical, buy retail or buy physical futures ( also at full price), but don't buy shares of ETFs if you think it gives you rights of taking it in physical ~ it doesn't, and wasn't intended to do so from the beginning. Shorting is as necessary as going long. There must be a balance ( which is offset by cash). In real life, imbalances do occur on a daily basis, and then the marketmakers have to buy/sell their own stash to even it up.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 1316609, member: 15199"]I would like to caution any such article over a month old, as a year is almost a financial eternity when it comes to derivatives. Secondly, this article gives more details on ETFs if one is interested. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange-traded_fund[/URL] One thing that I find is never mentioned is that such articles look at the shares of GLD or SLV being outstanding and then add the call options , but ignore the number of short options. In actuality, the number of call options and the number of put ( short) options such as on SLV ( so called paper silver) offset each other on expiration with payouts going in cash ( NOT physical silver). Those who hold the SLV stock in less than a basket ( 50,000 shares) can only exchange it for cash, not physical. Those over 50,000 shares must be a partner in the trust or work through a partner (such as JPM) to convert to physical with conversion charges. What this means is that only the partners could cause a run on the trust for physical. The rest would have to settle with cash. There has not been any evidence that in the US , any member has illegally shorted "naked". Some foreign branches associated could have, as in some world exchanges, naked shorting is not monitored. But remember that the SEC gives rather long settlement and reporting dates for "naked shorting" in the US, sometimes 30 days or longer. Thus a US concern or investor ( if you are rich enough or a politician ) could legally "naked" short and cover after 29 days. If you want physical, buy retail or buy physical futures ( also at full price), but don't buy shares of ETFs if you think it gives you rights of taking it in physical ~ it doesn't, and wasn't intended to do so from the beginning. Shorting is as necessary as going long. There must be a balance ( which is offset by cash). In real life, imbalances do occur on a daily basis, and then the marketmakers have to buy/sell their own stash to even it up.[/QUOTE]
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