Is this a nice Nicephorus II?

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Should be tomorrow, I would think. Very soon, anyway.
     
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  3. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Awesomeness I will keep an eye out :)
     
  4. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    It is indeed part of my collection. :D Otherwise David gave a perfect answer. The seller graded it "good Very Fine" which seems right to me. But centring and strike typically matter more for Byzantine than grade.

    Meanwhile, overstrikes like yours have their own special appeal. (Note that sometimes Sear mentions that a particular type is "typically" overstruck on one or more earlier types.) My favourite Byzantine overstrike from my collection is this one:

    Screen Shot 2017-06-08 at 4.50.41 PM.png

    It's a hard-to-find Tiberius III Apsimar (SB 1366) overstruck on an even harder-to-find Leontius (SB 1344).
     
  5. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    @dougsmit - I have tried three times to see that eye under the legend on the reverse; but, I can't make it out. I'll try again in the morning light. I really am only now appreciating an overstrike and the undertype. Thank you for breaking this down for me a bit on the boards. I will be reading you (and others) further on the topic.
     
  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Dead on...


    OVERSTRIKE:

    RR Anon AE Sextans-Hieron II Overstrike 214-212 BCE S1211 Cr69-6.jpg
    RR Anon AE Sextans-Hieron II Overstrike 214-212 BCE Sear 1211 Craw 69/6

    Composed of:

    Sicily Syracuse 275-215 BC AE 19 Hieron II Poseidon-Trident - same as overstrike.jpg
    Sicily Syracuse 275-215 BC AE 19 Hieron II Poseidon-Trident - same as overstrike

    AND:
    RR Anon AE Sextans 211-206 BCE Prob Sicily-Katana mintage Cr 69-6a Sear 1211.JPG
    RR Anon AE Sextans 211-206 BCE Prob Sicily-Katana mintage Craw 69/6a Sear 1211
     
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  7. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I love it when you post this combo, @Alegandron. I think I can even forgive you for outbidding the Canucks in JA's last auction! (Me and Steve on the fourée, and me on the Hadrian limes!)
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL... ooops...

    But thank you for your comment on the Overstrike... :)
     
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  9. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member


    That's pretty amazing. It looks like one of those (what are they called?) conjoined? head coins? Nice! And reminds me a bit of the obverse of the crocs coins. I like it a lot.
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Actually, the Dealer that sold it to me thought it was Janus or as they call it: Januform. However, I knew this was much too small for an As which were Januform.

    This one struck me as odd. Researched it with @ancientcoinguru , and we cme up with this solution. It all made sense when we put it together:

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ne...-poseidon-trident-bronze.283273/#post-2508211
     
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  11. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

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  12. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer


    Its true!

    NahapanaReshoot.jpg
    NahapanaOSreshoot.jpg
     
  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Honest question which I have no problem answering from my perspective: I am a novice, not a dealer, nor an expert by any means. I am a hobbiest focused on capturing placemarkers in History. I particularly like the Roman Republic, and those entities that interacted with them. That stated, I felt that the Seller, whom I would expect to have much more working knowledge than me regarding Ancient coins, would have superior knowledge. I had no clue what the coin truly was. Rather, with my novice knowledge, I FELT that this coin was odd. I believe I spent $30USD for it, and I would need to further research it. It was not labeled as an As, rather as a "Roman Republic Januform". Never seen that one in that size (sextans) as a Januform. Ok, SOLD and I do some research.

    Is it worth more than $30USD? No clue. Do I care? Not really, as I have never sold any of my coins, and have no plans to. Intrinsically, it is very valuable to me for what I LEARNED! And as to the cool period of History it represents: PRICELESS!
     
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  14. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Yep. Totally!
     
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