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<p>[QUOTE="gboulton, post: 1247890, member: 27043"]My own unprofessional opinion... *heh*</p><p><br /></p><p>The gold:silver ratio is bunk.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are 2 reasons for this:</p><p><br /></p><p>1) The first argument for using the GSR as a means of predicting/analyzing gold and/or silver prices is that the ratio has "historically" been within a certain range. The argument suggests that since the GSR is historically X:Y, it is safe to presume that it "naturally" wants to be back there, and that the market will try to correct to that point.</p><p><br /></p><p>The presumption here, of course, is that the market for these metals has remained stable and unchanged...in other words, that things are as they always have been. There are 2 flaws with this.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, clearly this isn't so. Gold and silver have performed remarkably differently the past 8-10 years than they did in the 100 years prior to that. So...if one considers an 8-10 year run to be indicative of market movement, then "things are different"....and relying on old ratios and behaviour is foolish.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course..perhaps you believe that an 8-10 year trend is NOT significant. Perhaps you are a longer term investor who believes that 8 years out of 50 or 100 is not significant. If that's the case, then why are you investing in gold/silver at all, or concerned with their ratio? Historically, except for that recent period of time, they are POOR investments.</p><p><br /></p><p>In other words...the only situation that makes the gold:silver ratio worth studying is the one that makes it meaningless. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>2) Let us presume, however, for a moment that the GSR is worth studying for whatever reason. Ok, fine. The argument is STILL predicated on the situation remaining relatively static.</p><p><br /></p><p>That INCLUDES demand for both the metals.</p><p><br /></p><p>This isn't to say that demand for silver must be what it was 10, 25, or 50 years ago...but rather the RATIO of demand for silver : demand for gold must have remained the same.</p><p><br /></p><p>This clearly isn't the case. Photography, a historically high demand for silver, is a fraction of what it was 25 years ago, as film has become (sadly, in the minds of some) a relic of a bygone age. By the same token, every day, a new use for silver is found in medicine, and electronics demand has skyrocketed since 1975.</p><p><br /></p><p>In a related way, we must also presume that the ability to mine/produce/recover both metals has remained relatively static, as a ratio.</p><p><br /></p><p>Put another way, the price of both metals is some function of supply and demand. To presume, then, that the PRICE of two metals must maintain a consistent ratio presumes that both the supply AND demand of both has maintained a consistent ratio.</p><p><br /></p><p>=============</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, if ALL of that is bunk, and there really is some magical ratio gold and silver seek to achieve...</p><p><br /></p><p>How do we know that the signal isn't a HUGE SELL for gold? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="gboulton, post: 1247890, member: 27043"]My own unprofessional opinion... *heh* The gold:silver ratio is bunk. There are 2 reasons for this: 1) The first argument for using the GSR as a means of predicting/analyzing gold and/or silver prices is that the ratio has "historically" been within a certain range. The argument suggests that since the GSR is historically X:Y, it is safe to presume that it "naturally" wants to be back there, and that the market will try to correct to that point. The presumption here, of course, is that the market for these metals has remained stable and unchanged...in other words, that things are as they always have been. There are 2 flaws with this. First, clearly this isn't so. Gold and silver have performed remarkably differently the past 8-10 years than they did in the 100 years prior to that. So...if one considers an 8-10 year run to be indicative of market movement, then "things are different"....and relying on old ratios and behaviour is foolish. Of course..perhaps you believe that an 8-10 year trend is NOT significant. Perhaps you are a longer term investor who believes that 8 years out of 50 or 100 is not significant. If that's the case, then why are you investing in gold/silver at all, or concerned with their ratio? Historically, except for that recent period of time, they are POOR investments. In other words...the only situation that makes the gold:silver ratio worth studying is the one that makes it meaningless. :) 2) Let us presume, however, for a moment that the GSR is worth studying for whatever reason. Ok, fine. The argument is STILL predicated on the situation remaining relatively static. That INCLUDES demand for both the metals. This isn't to say that demand for silver must be what it was 10, 25, or 50 years ago...but rather the RATIO of demand for silver : demand for gold must have remained the same. This clearly isn't the case. Photography, a historically high demand for silver, is a fraction of what it was 25 years ago, as film has become (sadly, in the minds of some) a relic of a bygone age. By the same token, every day, a new use for silver is found in medicine, and electronics demand has skyrocketed since 1975. In a related way, we must also presume that the ability to mine/produce/recover both metals has remained relatively static, as a ratio. Put another way, the price of both metals is some function of supply and demand. To presume, then, that the PRICE of two metals must maintain a consistent ratio presumes that both the supply AND demand of both has maintained a consistent ratio. ============= Finally, if ALL of that is bunk, and there really is some magical ratio gold and silver seek to achieve... How do we know that the signal isn't a HUGE SELL for gold? ;)[/QUOTE]
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