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<p>[QUOTE="mnmvick, post: 1164476, member: 15626"]Yes - I read that some more and now I am seeing that it was varieties of bulbs with some kind of virus that kept them from reproducing? Also it appears that not everyone in society was involved in trading them either. But how many gold commercials do you see on TV these days?</p><p> </p><p>I had done some research a few years ago on some of the precious metals. My main goal was to answer the question "Given that I am a human on Earth, and I think that precious metals will ALWAYS have value, how much of each Siver, Gold, Platinum and Palladium would I need to own, to have 'the average amount'." In other words, their are about 6 billion people, so if there are 3 billion ounces of silver, then I want to own 1/2 of silver, and so I would be average. It led me to learn a bit about how much exists and what the production is like. Of course everything is an estimate.</p><p> </p><p>So when the Hunt brothers drove silver up to $50 an ounce, they owned 200 million ounces, which was about half of the annual production, I think. Or they called it "available silver." According to a number I found somewhere, 416 million ounces are mined each year now, so the real question is what are the demands? It sounds like "the float" or available for sale or use in making products, is really low right now. But can silver mines up production easily?</p><p> </p><p>Also - what if 1 or 2 mines account for a decent percent of total worldwide production, and ane of them has a cave-in. That will surely drive the price up too.</p><p> </p><p>You are SO right about the financial instruments too. I mean, when you begin trading sight unseen and in quantities that are unrealistic to physically produce, then you have a problem. I think that Enron agtually sold UNUSED network bandwidth to other companies as a type of insurance that they could use this bandwidth if they needed too. Kind of like the gas station selling you 50 gallons of storage in their tank, so if you wanted, you could put some in there and get it later. If you could get like 5 cents a gallon a month, you could make money on empty tanks! I mean, then if you USE it, well that is another 15 cents a month.</p><p> </p><p>So this is what I wonder: is all this silver being traded physically? All the silver I own; I physically own. Is anyone buying like thousands of ounces and paying 10% a month over ten months? If so, then leveraging is going to push prices up incorrectly, I think.</p><p> </p><p>Whoever brought up the inflation adjusted price - yeah, that throws another wrench in things. If silver's price could be $125 based on inflation, then there is really no reason that it wouldn't go there for sure, unless demand dropped or production goes way up. Can you imagine if silver was $125 by the end of 2011? Wow! I would be selling some of my silver for sure.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mnmvick, post: 1164476, member: 15626"]Yes - I read that some more and now I am seeing that it was varieties of bulbs with some kind of virus that kept them from reproducing? Also it appears that not everyone in society was involved in trading them either. But how many gold commercials do you see on TV these days? I had done some research a few years ago on some of the precious metals. My main goal was to answer the question "Given that I am a human on Earth, and I think that precious metals will ALWAYS have value, how much of each Siver, Gold, Platinum and Palladium would I need to own, to have 'the average amount'." In other words, their are about 6 billion people, so if there are 3 billion ounces of silver, then I want to own 1/2 of silver, and so I would be average. It led me to learn a bit about how much exists and what the production is like. Of course everything is an estimate. So when the Hunt brothers drove silver up to $50 an ounce, they owned 200 million ounces, which was about half of the annual production, I think. Or they called it "available silver." According to a number I found somewhere, 416 million ounces are mined each year now, so the real question is what are the demands? It sounds like "the float" or available for sale or use in making products, is really low right now. But can silver mines up production easily? Also - what if 1 or 2 mines account for a decent percent of total worldwide production, and ane of them has a cave-in. That will surely drive the price up too. You are SO right about the financial instruments too. I mean, when you begin trading sight unseen and in quantities that are unrealistic to physically produce, then you have a problem. I think that Enron agtually sold UNUSED network bandwidth to other companies as a type of insurance that they could use this bandwidth if they needed too. Kind of like the gas station selling you 50 gallons of storage in their tank, so if you wanted, you could put some in there and get it later. If you could get like 5 cents a gallon a month, you could make money on empty tanks! I mean, then if you USE it, well that is another 15 cents a month. So this is what I wonder: is all this silver being traded physically? All the silver I own; I physically own. Is anyone buying like thousands of ounces and paying 10% a month over ten months? If so, then leveraging is going to push prices up incorrectly, I think. Whoever brought up the inflation adjusted price - yeah, that throws another wrench in things. If silver's price could be $125 based on inflation, then there is really no reason that it wouldn't go there for sure, unless demand dropped or production goes way up. Can you imagine if silver was $125 by the end of 2011? Wow! I would be selling some of my silver for sure.[/QUOTE]
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