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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1589456, member: 41665"]Well, you have a point - not well elaborated, but still. In this context, the US Mint only produces Gold PRODUCT - of course it's not refining ore anymore. </p><p><br /></p><p>Like Iran, the US Mint has bought bullion/planchets from foreign sources in recent years; I'm not convinced the Gold is necessarily "all-American Gold" either. Gold Corp. of <i>Australia </i>is reported/reputed to be<i> the sole supplier </i>of .9999 gold planchets for the American Gold Buffalo bullion and the First Spouse coin programs:</p><p><a href="http://www.mineweb.co.za/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-political-economy?oid=108615&sn=Detail&pid=102055" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.mineweb.co.za/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-political-economy?oid=108615&sn=Detail&pid=102055" rel="nofollow">http://www.mineweb.co.za/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-political-economy?oid=108615&sn=Detail&pid=102055</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Other reports declare the Sunshine Minting of Coeur d’Alene, Idaho "the one & only supplier" of AGE planchets. Very oddly, however, their website <i>only </i>mentions Silver (not the exclusive product): </p><p>"We are the primary supplier of silver blanks to the United States Mint..." ? </p><p>The US Mint reportedly spent $3.75 bln for contract PMs in FY 2011; only 1/3rd went to Sunshine Minting ($1.25 Bln) for <u>ALL</u> ASEs and AGEs. </p><p><a href="http://www.bullionstreet.com/news/us-mint-buys-more-goldsilver-from-sunshine/348" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.bullionstreet.com/news/us-mint-buys-more-goldsilver-from-sunshine/348" rel="nofollow">http://www.bullionstreet.com/news/us-mint-buys-more-goldsilver-from-sunshine/348</a></p><p><br /></p><p>In 2011, the US Mint must have been producing coin with stockpiles and/or foreign sources. In 2011 the US Mint produced (American Eagle 1oz coins) 910,000 ozt; @ 1,488 (avg Monthly Spot, FY 2011, London Spot) that's an expense of $1.354 Bln right there! </p><p><br /></p><p>Where can someone see <i>where Sunshine Minting sources it's Gold</i>? Or what percentage of ASE were from Sunshine Ag planchets? If Solyndra ($550 mln contract) was such a "big deal" why no transparency with the "US Gold" racket? (Not that I personally care where the Gold comes from - just that we shouldn't lie about it.) I suspect the US source reg has been dodged, by the numbers.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's well-known the USA exported Gold-scrap to Turkey <i>and </i>imported refined ingot. One example, little Rhode Island currently exports ~ $50-$100 million in Gold to Turkey each year: <a href="http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/state/data/ri.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/state/data/ri.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/state/data/ri.html</a> </p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>How ironic: your granny's 'junk Gold' sold @ $0.40 on the $1. >> Cash4Gold scammers, @ melt >> Turkish Gold refineries @ mkt? >> Islamic Republic of Iran! </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b></b>Once upon a time, '60 Minutes' and other investogative journalists would track this sort of circuitous trade. Now? Meh, it's too complicated and piffle compared to other grifts. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The US Senate obviously doesn't aggree. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for doubting it's 'huge numbers' - well, again: it's 12x the US Mint's Gold Product! Yet you insist that amount of Gold is a trifle, '8 million ounces is just >8 million ounces' ... no big deal! </p><p>By this 'logic', likewise, had US Mint NOT minted 7,953,000 ozt over the last 12 years the global bullion market wouldn't have moved/cared either. </p><p><br /></p><p>Is US retail supply/demand really superfluous, irrelevant to POG? The bald & confident assertion it has NO EFFECT whatsover is, I think, highly suspect. Certainly, US bullionists would have flipped out! And - I'll predict, here - <i>when US retail is finally denied access to US Gold coin </i>then POG priced in USD$ will go parabolic.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can't say what effect US retail demand has on POG, but I doubt it's nil. And surging bullion demand from an oil-rich nation prepared to go to war with the USA/Israel over nukes? LOL That's nothing to ignore, either.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1589456, member: 41665"]Well, you have a point - not well elaborated, but still. In this context, the US Mint only produces Gold PRODUCT - of course it's not refining ore anymore. Like Iran, the US Mint has bought bullion/planchets from foreign sources in recent years; I'm not convinced the Gold is necessarily "all-American Gold" either. Gold Corp. of [I]Australia [/I]is reported/reputed to be[I] the sole supplier [/I]of .9999 gold planchets for the American Gold Buffalo bullion and the First Spouse coin programs: [URL]http://www.mineweb.co.za/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-political-economy?oid=108615&sn=Detail&pid=102055[/URL] Other reports declare the Sunshine Minting of Coeur d’Alene, Idaho "the one & only supplier" of AGE planchets. Very oddly, however, their website [I]only [/I]mentions Silver (not the exclusive product): "We are the primary supplier of silver blanks to the United States Mint..." ? The US Mint reportedly spent $3.75 bln for contract PMs in FY 2011; only 1/3rd went to Sunshine Minting ($1.25 Bln) for [U]ALL[/U] ASEs and AGEs. [URL]http://www.bullionstreet.com/news/us-mint-buys-more-goldsilver-from-sunshine/348[/URL] In 2011, the US Mint must have been producing coin with stockpiles and/or foreign sources. In 2011 the US Mint produced (American Eagle 1oz coins) 910,000 ozt; @ 1,488 (avg Monthly Spot, FY 2011, London Spot) that's an expense of $1.354 Bln right there! Where can someone see [I]where Sunshine Minting sources it's Gold[/I]? Or what percentage of ASE were from Sunshine Ag planchets? If Solyndra ($550 mln contract) was such a "big deal" why no transparency with the "US Gold" racket? (Not that I personally care where the Gold comes from - just that we shouldn't lie about it.) I suspect the US source reg has been dodged, by the numbers. It's well-known the USA exported Gold-scrap to Turkey [I]and [/I]imported refined ingot. One example, little Rhode Island currently exports ~ $50-$100 million in Gold to Turkey each year: [URL]http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/state/data/ri.html[/URL] [B] How ironic: your granny's 'junk Gold' sold @ $0.40 on the $1. >> Cash4Gold scammers, @ melt >> Turkish Gold refineries @ mkt? >> Islamic Republic of Iran! [/B]Once upon a time, '60 Minutes' and other investogative journalists would track this sort of circuitous trade. Now? Meh, it's too complicated and piffle compared to other grifts. The US Senate obviously doesn't aggree. As for doubting it's 'huge numbers' - well, again: it's 12x the US Mint's Gold Product! Yet you insist that amount of Gold is a trifle, '8 million ounces is just >8 million ounces' ... no big deal! By this 'logic', likewise, had US Mint NOT minted 7,953,000 ozt over the last 12 years the global bullion market wouldn't have moved/cared either. Is US retail supply/demand really superfluous, irrelevant to POG? The bald & confident assertion it has NO EFFECT whatsover is, I think, highly suspect. Certainly, US bullionists would have flipped out! And - I'll predict, here - [I]when US retail is finally denied access to US Gold coin [/I]then POG priced in USD$ will go parabolic. I can't say what effect US retail demand has on POG, but I doubt it's nil. And surging bullion demand from an oil-rich nation prepared to go to war with the USA/Israel over nukes? LOL That's nothing to ignore, either.[/QUOTE]
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