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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1265940, member: 26302"]I was making the term "stocks" to mean either one of the established indexes or the entier market. Of course "stocks" cannot mean any individual stock, in investment parlance it is assumed you have removed the alpha risk. If you are still incurring alpha, then you are getting too little return for the risk. </p><p><br /></p><p>I disagree as to the timeframe as well. Why is it unfair to compare stock and PM performance since 1910? Both were legal to own, and silver has been legal to own the entire time. For you to pick your timeframe that started with a rise of silver seems to be an attempt to justify your argument by picking and choosing dates of your liking. I can do that too, and make any PM performance to be simply brutal versus stocks. I was attempting to be fair in the timeframes picked.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: The real answer here is to own both. Owning multiple types of assets smooths out these timing issues, which is why I have always advocated keeping a portion of a portfolio in PM, stocks, and real estate. They are contra assets to each other usually. I "lost" a lot of money in the 90's buy buying my silver and not buying stocks. That "loss" then turned into some decent gains as silver went from $4 to $40. There should never, in my eyes, be an either/or decision. If someone is all PM, or all stock, then I say either decision is too risky. Lowering your risk versus a stated return is the game man, and its proven adding PM to stock holding can lower risk, just like its proven adding stocks to PM holding ALSO lowers overall risk. It seems too many are either/or, and I am saying either extreme is wrong in my eyes, since the future is unknowable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Arguing over which percentage to allocate between the two, however, is fair game in my eyes, and I am sure will be an endless, unprovable debate here. I am happy with that as long as everyone is debating percentages between the two, and not absolute one or the other. To me on the face of it cannot be the optimum solution as proven by past results.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1265940, member: 26302"]I was making the term "stocks" to mean either one of the established indexes or the entier market. Of course "stocks" cannot mean any individual stock, in investment parlance it is assumed you have removed the alpha risk. If you are still incurring alpha, then you are getting too little return for the risk. I disagree as to the timeframe as well. Why is it unfair to compare stock and PM performance since 1910? Both were legal to own, and silver has been legal to own the entire time. For you to pick your timeframe that started with a rise of silver seems to be an attempt to justify your argument by picking and choosing dates of your liking. I can do that too, and make any PM performance to be simply brutal versus stocks. I was attempting to be fair in the timeframes picked. Edit: The real answer here is to own both. Owning multiple types of assets smooths out these timing issues, which is why I have always advocated keeping a portion of a portfolio in PM, stocks, and real estate. They are contra assets to each other usually. I "lost" a lot of money in the 90's buy buying my silver and not buying stocks. That "loss" then turned into some decent gains as silver went from $4 to $40. There should never, in my eyes, be an either/or decision. If someone is all PM, or all stock, then I say either decision is too risky. Lowering your risk versus a stated return is the game man, and its proven adding PM to stock holding can lower risk, just like its proven adding stocks to PM holding ALSO lowers overall risk. It seems too many are either/or, and I am saying either extreme is wrong in my eyes, since the future is unknowable. Arguing over which percentage to allocate between the two, however, is fair game in my eyes, and I am sure will be an endless, unprovable debate here. I am happy with that as long as everyone is debating percentages between the two, and not absolute one or the other. To me on the face of it cannot be the optimum solution as proven by past results.[/QUOTE]
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