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<p>[QUOTE="PeacePeople, post: 2163708, member: 20082"]Firms have been convicted and fined out the wazoo? Convicted of what? Who has actually been put in jail for any of these crimes that is in upper management? I won't argue that they haven't been fined, but what are the fines really? When you get a fine to pay $5,000,000 on shady deals that you netted $25,000,000 on, is that really a fine? That appears to be more of a bribe or hush money than a fine to me. How is that painful? </p><p><br /></p><p>Who are they is a very good question, that I know. Names aren't published, not that I read much MSM as I consider most of it propaganda, but nobody is ever brought to any kind of meaningful trial because they use that great loophole, pay the fine and don't confess to any wrong doing. </p><p><br /></p><p>My personal belief is it's systemic, mostly because it's acceptable. How can it not be acceptable when no individual is ever brought to trial and actually convicted? Even those that are actually caught, where they have real tangible evidence walk away and reappear ready to launch their new, latest and greatest scheme, see Jon Corzine...one of the many sick jokes or tragic comedies played on us all, I know...</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm going to bed also. Thanks for the candor.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="PeacePeople, post: 2163708, member: 20082"]Firms have been convicted and fined out the wazoo? Convicted of what? Who has actually been put in jail for any of these crimes that is in upper management? I won't argue that they haven't been fined, but what are the fines really? When you get a fine to pay $5,000,000 on shady deals that you netted $25,000,000 on, is that really a fine? That appears to be more of a bribe or hush money than a fine to me. How is that painful? Who are they is a very good question, that I know. Names aren't published, not that I read much MSM as I consider most of it propaganda, but nobody is ever brought to any kind of meaningful trial because they use that great loophole, pay the fine and don't confess to any wrong doing. My personal belief is it's systemic, mostly because it's acceptable. How can it not be acceptable when no individual is ever brought to trial and actually convicted? Even those that are actually caught, where they have real tangible evidence walk away and reappear ready to launch their new, latest and greatest scheme, see Jon Corzine...one of the many sick jokes or tragic comedies played on us all, I know... I'm going to bed also. Thanks for the candor.[/QUOTE]
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