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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 2122782, member: 13650"]You know, you read so many of these threads over the years. They always unfold the same. New people think they can rehash the argument in some way that hasn't been heard before. In the end, everyone may be right to a point and wrong at the same time. </p><p><br /></p><p> <u><b>All that matters in this argument is "timing" and actions. The silver market is whatever YOU make of it in a given period of time. </b></u> That time period being from the point you buy to the point you sell all or a portion of, your holdings. Stacking until you die and never selling or trading it at high points for the belief it will always go higher, is pretty much pointless. You have to be willing to accept the inevitable ups and downs and let go of some at some level. If you buy low and sell high you win. If the opposite, you lose. You control what you do with it. </p><p><br /></p><p> The last time it was running up, we watched people bailing in the 20s, then 30s. Then the 40s. I was one of them. I didn't move that much. But at $41 oz. in the summer of 2011, I decided to move some at that point into a high dollar numismatic deal. So no matter what ended up happening, I could say I got a small win from the silver market. At the show I was at, you could have sold and traded all the silver you wanted to bring for $41 oz. Much of what I brought was purchased in 2007 at $17. </p><p> So what kind of perspective are we looking at in this thread? I wasn't able to retire off of this. It was a good decision at the time. I got a little ahead by doing so. The thing is it required action. Both in 2007 to buy and 2011 to sell/trade. You can't predict when it will bounce back but it's easy to guess something will happen that will drive it up again. When it does, I'll transfer some of what I buy now into something else again.</p><p><br /></p><p> Depending on what peoples expectations are for it and when they get in, everyone will have a different perspective of the value of the market. It is volatile. The paper market drives it.</p><p> I take comfort in owning something tangible that I can get my hands on but I have some in the market too. To me, that's a bigger gamble than the PMs. I feel quite confident that I can always break even with a bar of PM if I have to and I could do it today. Not so with the stock market. But you're almost obligated to play everything in hopes of coming out ahead for retirement.</p><p><br /></p><p> The only reason the dollar lasts is because we're the best of the worst. There really isn't anything else going on this planet that can replace it and too many people around the world rely on it for the place to function. There is an absolute need for a large quantity of something with perceived value to exchange for everyone to continue to survive.</p><p> They will keep working at degrading it and maybe some day, eventually, it will crash, but I suspect they'll invent new math if they have to, before they can let it collapse. Or they will devalue it and start chopping off zeros in order to keep functioning.</p><p><br /></p><p> Long term is a crap shoot. I'd say don't be afraid to take at least "some" short term gains when they present themselves and let come what may for the long term if you're going to play the game. Trying to predict what it will do tomorrow or next week is pointless unless you're looking to move huge quantities of it soon. If there's a trend that may affect where it could go by next fall, it might be worth a read.</p><p><br /></p><p> There's no reason to hate it and no reason to feel anybody's going to get rich off their "stack". I accept it for what it is and realize there are many forces at play that are out of my control. My expectations are not high, but recent history was enough to keep me excited over the possibilities going forward. </p><p><br /></p><p> Given what we've seen, I think silver is currently undervalued, again. But I am not an authority for anyone to make large investment decisions off of. Just another opinion in a sea of them. </p><p> Rampant inflation is probably inevitable some day, if it isn't happening under our noses already. We've enjoyed relatively low inflation for a long time. If this happens, you don't want that stack of bills sitting under the mattress.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 2122782, member: 13650"]You know, you read so many of these threads over the years. They always unfold the same. New people think they can rehash the argument in some way that hasn't been heard before. In the end, everyone may be right to a point and wrong at the same time. [U][B]All that matters in this argument is "timing" and actions. The silver market is whatever YOU make of it in a given period of time. [/B][/U] That time period being from the point you buy to the point you sell all or a portion of, your holdings. Stacking until you die and never selling or trading it at high points for the belief it will always go higher, is pretty much pointless. You have to be willing to accept the inevitable ups and downs and let go of some at some level. If you buy low and sell high you win. If the opposite, you lose. You control what you do with it. The last time it was running up, we watched people bailing in the 20s, then 30s. Then the 40s. I was one of them. I didn't move that much. But at $41 oz. in the summer of 2011, I decided to move some at that point into a high dollar numismatic deal. So no matter what ended up happening, I could say I got a small win from the silver market. At the show I was at, you could have sold and traded all the silver you wanted to bring for $41 oz. Much of what I brought was purchased in 2007 at $17. So what kind of perspective are we looking at in this thread? I wasn't able to retire off of this. It was a good decision at the time. I got a little ahead by doing so. The thing is it required action. Both in 2007 to buy and 2011 to sell/trade. You can't predict when it will bounce back but it's easy to guess something will happen that will drive it up again. When it does, I'll transfer some of what I buy now into something else again. Depending on what peoples expectations are for it and when they get in, everyone will have a different perspective of the value of the market. It is volatile. The paper market drives it. I take comfort in owning something tangible that I can get my hands on but I have some in the market too. To me, that's a bigger gamble than the PMs. I feel quite confident that I can always break even with a bar of PM if I have to and I could do it today. Not so with the stock market. But you're almost obligated to play everything in hopes of coming out ahead for retirement. The only reason the dollar lasts is because we're the best of the worst. There really isn't anything else going on this planet that can replace it and too many people around the world rely on it for the place to function. There is an absolute need for a large quantity of something with perceived value to exchange for everyone to continue to survive. They will keep working at degrading it and maybe some day, eventually, it will crash, but I suspect they'll invent new math if they have to, before they can let it collapse. Or they will devalue it and start chopping off zeros in order to keep functioning. Long term is a crap shoot. I'd say don't be afraid to take at least "some" short term gains when they present themselves and let come what may for the long term if you're going to play the game. Trying to predict what it will do tomorrow or next week is pointless unless you're looking to move huge quantities of it soon. If there's a trend that may affect where it could go by next fall, it might be worth a read. There's no reason to hate it and no reason to feel anybody's going to get rich off their "stack". I accept it for what it is and realize there are many forces at play that are out of my control. My expectations are not high, but recent history was enough to keep me excited over the possibilities going forward. Given what we've seen, I think silver is currently undervalued, again. But I am not an authority for anyone to make large investment decisions off of. Just another opinion in a sea of them. Rampant inflation is probably inevitable some day, if it isn't happening under our noses already. We've enjoyed relatively low inflation for a long time. If this happens, you don't want that stack of bills sitting under the mattress.[/QUOTE]
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