If you don't Silver Stack you will be left behind

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by SunriseCoins, Mar 22, 2015.

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Silver or Fiat which one wins in the long run?

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  1. Silver

    75.5%
  2. Fiat

    24.5%
  1. slackaction1

    slackaction1 Supporter! Supporter

    uh...no not here......
     
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  3. slackaction1

    slackaction1 Supporter! Supporter

    :vamp::vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit::vamp:uh.... not here
     
  4. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    I don't trust "easy." Easy= Soylent Green. Unless your a cronyist.
     
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  5. Revi

    Revi Mildly numismatic

    $14.76 right now. Ouch!!!!!!!!!!! What is going on? The dollar is up, oil and commodities are way down. Time to buy?
     
  6. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Maybe the dollar is gaining because the odds of a rate hike next month have increased because of...Trumpets please.....Surging jobs report for October. And not even "unexpected" surging job reports either. Just surging, yeeaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And with a. hot summer too. You go Janet.
     
  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I can hear the beeeep-beeeep of the trucks backing up as we speak :D
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    They must be silver dump trucks :)
     
  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Ohh you just gave me visions of a dump truck dumping silver on my driveway like I just ordered a load of landscape rocks :shame:
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Post a photo after the next rain :)
     
  11. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    @Revi, 10oz Bullion yes, still would not buy much more then 2 pounds till the Flat Line. $160-$164 for 10oz Bullion today or back off from the buy.

    From what I can see the PM Market is working like clockwork so its easy to see the down trend. In that case patiences is key, buying yes all the way down yes.

    Remember it is in the cards to see a Trade Price around $8-$10 a oz for Silver. I personally do not care if I buy now and find some of my cash in vapor the key is do not go overboard get some silver now always for the wall street/gov crook factor but work your average do not let your average work you.
     
  12. slackaction1

    slackaction1 Supporter! Supporter

    @SunriseCoins your talking patience as in years to come to get to 8.00 an ounce or 2016 ?? ??
     
  13. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member


    The Bottom Flat Line is very possible to be between $6-$10

    $6 being not likely but possible
    $7 being not likely but possible

    A Range between $8-$10 Highly Likely, because this range is so likely then I keep $6-$7 range on the table when deciding how much I buy to the bottom month to month.

    Few pounds a month will added up over time and what fiat goes in to vapor for the time being is worth the price to have the Physical Silver on hand. Again the Debt and Unrest around the world I feel better to be able to handle the problem with Physical Silver on hand. Again we are not look for a total melt down that will not work for the sale of PM's what we are looking for is the melt down of the dollar and the melt down which will happen to the Dow. All in all in the past its takes decades of holding and buying but when the time comes the return has been there for PM's for re-sale.

    Its best to have your bullion sorted for re-sale and a hold period. Fully selling out is not good. If again thing hand the PM's down in the family but only to one and one person who is best in finances and making decision with spending.
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2015
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  14. InfleXion

    InfleXion Wealth Preserver

    It's pretty apparent to me the purpose of this thread is to encourage people not to buy silver at these prices, or at least to buy less than otherwise. I would call it a well put together propaganda piece, except it isn't. The grammar is horrible. The thoughts are often incoherent and rambling. I truly hope I'm not saying anything that people can't tell for themselves, but just in case I am, do your own due diligence. The person running this thread does not have peoples' best interests in mind, otherwise they would not be so rude to anyone who questions what is being put forward.
     
  15. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    @InfleXion, here is your less then one min of my time for you, your 100% wrong and I dislike you go away understand, thanks have a day with you.
     
  16. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    It really is quite silly to acuse Sunrise of some nefarious plot where he doesn't have "people's best interests in mind". What would be the motivation or opportunity for profit????? I also find it interesting you chose to attack Sunrise, but make no mention of Ansilie Bullion who posts "advertisements" everyday with the only motive is to separate folks from their fiat. What is up with that??????

    In addition, you might not agree with Sunrise, but even you have to admit, his "advise" is far far better than yours when you were telling folks it was a good idea to buy silver when it was near $50. Just saying.....
     
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  17. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    People have made decisions buying at $50, that was/is wishful thinking and under estimating what Silver could/has done as far as going down for whatever reasons in the past they got burned doing so at $50.

    I am not saying 1 oz of Silver is not cheap now its. Problem is cash is cash and silver is silver you want more, then hold cash-spend later when the trade price has been ever more smashed down.

    On the flip side to those that want to only buy from lower levels to higher levels sure its your cash its your poor decisions. I see Kilo's being sold all the time on sites wow people that take a beat down for no real reason at all but do it any way.

    My worth value is in Silver but and I try never to use the word but in this case I will. Even I overall value my worth in Silver at the end of the day, but game now is cash and what you have of it to buy what you want with it.

    The worst thing people can do is not have equal value of cash against there PM's. I know if I can make this point stick in, I know people will be better off holding with strong hands and feeling better about what cash they put in to PM's at any price.

    Over all this downtrend is way,way,way to long and you can bet either your silver oz or cash this is crook-ery at its best. We all should have been past this downtrend by now and either
    A. People that back the Truck up-Me and Others
    B. People that find no interest in PM's

    But we are not and 3 years of a downtrend, I am just trying to help with my advice and my prospective on PM Trade Levels if and when I can.
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Seldom do people see that the same commercial people proselytizing the hardest with dubious factoids and shaky charts ( IMO) for purchasing PM, are those trying to sell them or raise the price so they can profit. It seems it will tougher on bullionists and hard money advocates in the future, so read advice carefully. The sellers will be happy to take your dirty grimy fiat in exchange for their clean sparkly metal. Metals crash many times faster than they go up ( same with stocks or anything else financial), and I do not think they have crashed yet!! But that is just me and I am the one affected if wrong. I hope it drags out with a "sawtooth" chart over years, and use sell-options ( puts) when appropriate.

    Sunrise said:
    But I must disagree, it isn't "crookery" causing the study decline of PM due to increase sell/put options, it is the reverse, because PM are going down , dying of natural causes, that Wall Street and others are using put options to pick up the change falling out of the dying PM pockets, and they will continue to do so until they get burned steadily for a while. Yes, I have been doing that and I have to watch for long term reversals before I stop. I don't feel I push it down, I just pick up the change as it staggers along its decline, drinking mojo juice and chanting zombie prayers, ignoring moderation in all things, even investments. :)
     
  19. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    The downtrend has been "way, way, way too long" due, in most part, to quantitative easing. Once rates rise and the free money train is over pm's will once again reclaim save haven status. And if/when the paperboys are forced to carry more physical to back all that paper we should see a huge spike
     
  20. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    Forced right its not, this is one of the biggest problems in the Paper Trade PM Markets, till they do and its in plain sight its criminal/crooks/falsehood, period.

    I do not see a steady decline or I would be able to gauge, overlook, study the PM Market more free and easily. Its tricky at times, what brings the PM market down tends to be a recipe not always as it should be. For the most part the FED is to blame, unclear amounts of PM's being traded with out Physical that is just plain as day Criminal.

    Who buys as it goes up from $14.40 to $16.40 yes some is demand for product market.

    Really its a crime as I see it, overall I am sure in the future when it will make no difference to the ones involved 100's if not 1000's of traders that are illegally trading PMs, they will be in court and off to drinks. At $14 is was another Price Proof the Metal is dead along with a quick $13.90 low which is always been followed back to again as we going deeper in to this downtrend, then the FED spoke (which they do about every month 2 or more times super joke) then it goes high the Trades know its Dead Silver but it goes up $2 then within about the same time it goes up it goes back down Bull Falsehoods. Dow was down 2000 points then back up right sure, now its as healthy as every. They knew Silver is dead but did what every they needed to make money for about 2 weeks Crime and Falsehoods with not Physical Silver to back the trading.

    Pass by Folks nothing to see here your money is Flat Lining fine or Regaining. The only people making steady cash in the Dow are the day traders period. If people would get a clue the Dow is a joke and Trickery would not have so many little fish swimming around. Anyhow when the Dow has this many little Fish its doomed just as it was in the past when to many little fish got involved.

    I know of many people with $10,000 on the line in the Dow getting maybe $2000,00 in a year that's a joke the same dang people who got slammed and lost 30%-60% in 2008-09 some close friends and some on other type boards on line fact is people are sheep and will listen to about anything from people in suits. I make $2000 from $100 dollars of supplies in 2-3 weeks. No 100% I do not have the time myself to make money off their money I am just saying they settle for so little with so much on the line all year long.

    No I am calling bull. Bull bull bull they made somehow illegally cash off Silver in about 2 weeks countless oz's of Silver sold back and forth no proof of the Physical and then back to business as the Dow goes up and up now back at a Healthy Points.

    Dow is started sometime around turn of the 19 Century I can get the date if you all want as you all can, point is its gains from about the 1980's to now are out of control and Falsehood from the time of the 1980's to 2015.

    Wow go figure that's when the Debt started to become 100% out of control right around 1980, so now what do we have. Well we have system over the last 35 years that is build on Falsehood, Control by Falsehoods and Ran by Falsehoods.

    This is are Country, these are Markets not some traders for the last 35 years running this system into the ground or is it. Because of Greed. Blind eye to the Truth. How dare they.
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2015
  21. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    This I think is funny, as Silver was going up I got swamped with Dealers sending me messages like Silver XXXxxsuch and such silver soaring buy and not one week later I am getting messages Silver Triplexxxxxxxdumping and such silver dropping.

    I am missing something, how is this to encourage me to buy any more or less within 4 week period.

    Sounds like they are without a customer based that buys regular too me but at the same time the amount of Silver being sold on EBAY blows my mind.
     
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