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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 578000, member: 13650"]Your post is well taken and an interesting perspective. But you're also making an assumption that these 'powers that be' are completely 100% in control of the economy which as you say, consists of massive debt and millions of citizens. </p><p> </p><p> It reminds me of when during presidential elections, there are people who really think they're voting for a president who can single handedly turn the economy around. </p><p> </p><p> IMO, if the powers that be could control everything, we shouldn't have any large banks failing or people at the top committing suicide. Why don't they just change things so all these banks are fine and they continue to profit? </p><p> My guess is that you can't control what people will do, how they feel about things, what they will spend their money on or what they want. You can't control who will be responsible, and who won't be. You can't convince people at the top to take pay cuts in order to save employees without the companies being taken over by the government. </p><p> </p><p> The economy and the value of a dollar I believe is a large and complicated thing. Even the powers that be, may only be a small rudder on a large ship, moving full speed ahead. </p><p> </p><p> I'm beginning to become more concerened about a possible World currency. A quick fix would be just to devalue the currency by 'x' amount and implement a World currency that you will now be paid in. </p><p> </p><p> What choice would anyone have in the matter? (I disagreed with bailing out AIG. Who am I supposed to call to stop or reverse what was done?? Nobody. You can't. They did what they wanted to do.)</p><p> </p><p> It would be enormous wealth lost to the average guy but the debts that those banks hold are then instantly worth that much more, simply remaining the same. They win, we would lose as usual. They have plenty of incentive to implement this under the guise that it is "what is necessary for global financial stability." </p><p> </p><p> Metals of course would skyrocket as your cash gets traded in on lesser value global currency that you now have to use. They own the federal reserve. They decide what's legal tender. Absolutely nothing stops them from pulling the plug on the whole fiasco and moving to something else. </p><p> </p><p> Remember this is a global economy now. Global currency will be looked upon as the new, good thing. The powers that be on a global level will decide how best they can benefit from this. The smaller ones in this country will not matter. Maybe they'll be able to convince people with a small devaluation. Maybe only 10%? (lol) </p><p> </p><p> This isn't just doom and gloom. To me this is a very feasible situation that they could accomplish if they choose to. </p><p> </p><p> Even if they only do as you say and start pulling money back and raising interest rates back up to prevent inflation.... didn't those actions help drive us into a depression in the 30's?</p><p> Interest rates are low. Cash is being printed like mad, government bailouts are plentiful and yet still there is news of banks refusing to lend. So what happens when they pull back to defeat inflation? People need to get car loans to buy these cars that keep the big 3 in business. </p><p> </p><p>If they can't, they will just keep going away until they disappear. You can't forget about the reactions that will come from the actions that you say will save us.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 578000, member: 13650"]Your post is well taken and an interesting perspective. But you're also making an assumption that these 'powers that be' are completely 100% in control of the economy which as you say, consists of massive debt and millions of citizens. It reminds me of when during presidential elections, there are people who really think they're voting for a president who can single handedly turn the economy around. IMO, if the powers that be could control everything, we shouldn't have any large banks failing or people at the top committing suicide. Why don't they just change things so all these banks are fine and they continue to profit? My guess is that you can't control what people will do, how they feel about things, what they will spend their money on or what they want. You can't control who will be responsible, and who won't be. You can't convince people at the top to take pay cuts in order to save employees without the companies being taken over by the government. The economy and the value of a dollar I believe is a large and complicated thing. Even the powers that be, may only be a small rudder on a large ship, moving full speed ahead. I'm beginning to become more concerened about a possible World currency. A quick fix would be just to devalue the currency by 'x' amount and implement a World currency that you will now be paid in. What choice would anyone have in the matter? (I disagreed with bailing out AIG. Who am I supposed to call to stop or reverse what was done?? Nobody. You can't. They did what they wanted to do.) It would be enormous wealth lost to the average guy but the debts that those banks hold are then instantly worth that much more, simply remaining the same. They win, we would lose as usual. They have plenty of incentive to implement this under the guise that it is "what is necessary for global financial stability." Metals of course would skyrocket as your cash gets traded in on lesser value global currency that you now have to use. They own the federal reserve. They decide what's legal tender. Absolutely nothing stops them from pulling the plug on the whole fiasco and moving to something else. Remember this is a global economy now. Global currency will be looked upon as the new, good thing. The powers that be on a global level will decide how best they can benefit from this. The smaller ones in this country will not matter. Maybe they'll be able to convince people with a small devaluation. Maybe only 10%? (lol) This isn't just doom and gloom. To me this is a very feasible situation that they could accomplish if they choose to. Even if they only do as you say and start pulling money back and raising interest rates back up to prevent inflation.... didn't those actions help drive us into a depression in the 30's? Interest rates are low. Cash is being printed like mad, government bailouts are plentiful and yet still there is news of banks refusing to lend. So what happens when they pull back to defeat inflation? People need to get car loans to buy these cars that keep the big 3 in business. If they can't, they will just keep going away until they disappear. You can't forget about the reactions that will come from the actions that you say will save us.[/QUOTE]
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