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<p>[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1209809, member: 3011"]My point was that use of USNs would save money because no interest or principal payments would be required for holders of the debt other than the Fed. I don't disagree that a good portion of the money collected by the Fed is returned to the Treasury. I haven't checked, but I'll bet they manage to spend most of what they collect on generous employee salaries, bonuses and first class airfare.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've got bad news for you on the spending cuts and other checks on overspending. If the federal government managed to cut spending and begin paying down the debt, the nation would be plunged into a deep depression. You see, when the money is the debt and the debt is the money, any reduction in debt has the same impact as reducing the money supply. Clinton more or less proved this when he came close to balancing the budget for one year. The nation quickly plunged into recession. And when the Fed decreased the money supply in 1930, they took a fairly ordinary recession and turned it into the Great Depression. So debt reduction is 0 for 2. The debt can never be reduced unless a new currency like the USN is introduced. Whenever I see a politician talk about balancing the budget and reducing the debt without eliminating the Federal Reserve, I instantly know that the guy is either being intentionally deceptive or just doesn't understand our monetary system. But you can bet the international bankers do.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1209809, member: 3011"]My point was that use of USNs would save money because no interest or principal payments would be required for holders of the debt other than the Fed. I don't disagree that a good portion of the money collected by the Fed is returned to the Treasury. I haven't checked, but I'll bet they manage to spend most of what they collect on generous employee salaries, bonuses and first class airfare. I've got bad news for you on the spending cuts and other checks on overspending. If the federal government managed to cut spending and begin paying down the debt, the nation would be plunged into a deep depression. You see, when the money is the debt and the debt is the money, any reduction in debt has the same impact as reducing the money supply. Clinton more or less proved this when he came close to balancing the budget for one year. The nation quickly plunged into recession. And when the Fed decreased the money supply in 1930, they took a fairly ordinary recession and turned it into the Great Depression. So debt reduction is 0 for 2. The debt can never be reduced unless a new currency like the USN is introduced. Whenever I see a politician talk about balancing the budget and reducing the debt without eliminating the Federal Reserve, I instantly know that the guy is either being intentionally deceptive or just doesn't understand our monetary system. But you can bet the international bankers do.[/QUOTE]
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