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<p>[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1209036, member: 3011"]The open mindedness comes into play for those who can see how the lessons apply to today. It must not be simplistic since you have been arguing that it isn't possible. I gave you a real life example which could have been expanded to include the issuance of currency by both Lincoln and Kennedy. The currency was not debt and although it was retired, it didn't have to be if taxes were set at a level to retire only the amount of newly created currency [i.e., a balanced budget]. Now you can call it debt just to poison the idea, but it doesn't meet any of the requirements that people normally associate with debt. There was no lender, no borrower, no interest rate, and no scheduled repayment. Of course there is a limit to how much of this can be done, just as there is a limit to deficit spending today, so that is irrlevant. That's why there is taxation. What is relevant is the observation, denined by many folks in this forum, that one of the powers of government is to create money and put it into circulation. Only the bankers insist that money is not money unless it is offset by an equal amount of debt upon which they can collect a perpetual stream of interest.</p><p><br /></p><p>The defenders of central banking should consider the fact that they are defending a system that is impoverishing them, and the time is growing very short as the compounding of debt has now reached the level where government deficits START at $1trillion per year. I've seen estimates in the business media that in a few years it will be $5trillion per year. Since you don't have a solution, maybe it's time to consider some alternatives.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1209036, member: 3011"]The open mindedness comes into play for those who can see how the lessons apply to today. It must not be simplistic since you have been arguing that it isn't possible. I gave you a real life example which could have been expanded to include the issuance of currency by both Lincoln and Kennedy. The currency was not debt and although it was retired, it didn't have to be if taxes were set at a level to retire only the amount of newly created currency [i.e., a balanced budget]. Now you can call it debt just to poison the idea, but it doesn't meet any of the requirements that people normally associate with debt. There was no lender, no borrower, no interest rate, and no scheduled repayment. Of course there is a limit to how much of this can be done, just as there is a limit to deficit spending today, so that is irrlevant. That's why there is taxation. What is relevant is the observation, denined by many folks in this forum, that one of the powers of government is to create money and put it into circulation. Only the bankers insist that money is not money unless it is offset by an equal amount of debt upon which they can collect a perpetual stream of interest. The defenders of central banking should consider the fact that they are defending a system that is impoverishing them, and the time is growing very short as the compounding of debt has now reached the level where government deficits START at $1trillion per year. I've seen estimates in the business media that in a few years it will be $5trillion per year. Since you don't have a solution, maybe it's time to consider some alternatives.[/QUOTE]
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