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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Fall Guy, post: 1698645, member: 35281&quot;]They often claim it&#039;s a civil matter because it often is, like this situation. You would have to prove that the guy selling the bar purposely obtained the OP&#039;s money by deception. That would be theft by deception. Now we all know he did, but proving it is another story. He will say it was given to him as payment and for all he knew it was legit. End of case. Any phone calls between the OP and the seller are hearsay unless the OP recorded them. </p><p><br /></p><p>OP, sorry it didn&#039;t work out for you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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