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<p>[QUOTE="fatima, post: 1249065, member: 22143"]Then you fundamentally don't understand it. Fiat currency, distilled down, represents nothing more than a future claim on someone's labor. Note this is quite a different paradigm than an asset based currency. Because the FRN is claim on the future, this means it is a debt and debt involves interest. It's this interest component that cause the system to fall apart. Currency enters the system by two methods. First spending by the Treasury. When the Treasury spends money it is borrowed from the Federal Reserve. Interest is owed on this money. Second is through the Federal Reserve system of banks. When a bank needs additional currency from the Federal Reserve, the Fed creates it and hands it over to the bank. There is interest on this created money as well. (I'm ignoring fractional reserve banking as it's not relevant to this point)</p><p><br /></p><p>The only way to account for this interest is to expand the money supply. It has to happen, it's simple math. As long as this base money remains out there, then there is interest on it. It's why fiat systems fail. BTW you never answered the question on what Fiat system has lasted 100 or even 50 years.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="fatima, post: 1249065, member: 22143"]Then you fundamentally don't understand it. Fiat currency, distilled down, represents nothing more than a future claim on someone's labor. Note this is quite a different paradigm than an asset based currency. Because the FRN is claim on the future, this means it is a debt and debt involves interest. It's this interest component that cause the system to fall apart. Currency enters the system by two methods. First spending by the Treasury. When the Treasury spends money it is borrowed from the Federal Reserve. Interest is owed on this money. Second is through the Federal Reserve system of banks. When a bank needs additional currency from the Federal Reserve, the Fed creates it and hands it over to the bank. There is interest on this created money as well. (I'm ignoring fractional reserve banking as it's not relevant to this point) The only way to account for this interest is to expand the money supply. It has to happen, it's simple math. As long as this base money remains out there, then there is interest on it. It's why fiat systems fail. BTW you never answered the question on what Fiat system has lasted 100 or even 50 years.[/QUOTE]
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