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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1576400, member: 41665"]Look at the WGC link on Page 1, here. In Q 3 2012, US Bar/Coin demand was 10.5 mt; global demand Bar/Coin was 294 m.t. <b>The US is less than 4% the global bullion investment, retail!</b> (Yes, I'm ignoring the junky vastly inflated kgold jewelry mkt as spurious, here.) 'Not a big deal' ? Ha, we're basically irrelevant to the current PM mkt. As investors, Americans own almost nothing. </p><p><br /></p><p>Also, the USA had net gold exports of 103 mt in Q1 2012: so we're now exporting ~10x what we import?! Scrap Gold is flowing out of the US at ever higher rates than Americans are buying. </p><p><br /></p><p>Compare & contrast the US share of global equity (proxy: <i>MSCI All Country World Index</i>). The USA is still ~40% of the paper-game. In addition to grossly overrated RE, American schlubs hold more overpriced USD$-denominated paper assets than anyone else. In each downdraft, we'll lose more & more. When the Perfect Storm hits (circa 2018-22) <u>US investors will be totally wiped out</u> - <i>because </i>they cling to nothing but spec/fantasy paper "investments." That's alarming, no?</p><p><br /></p><p>What does this mean for American coin people? </p><p><br /></p><p>1) It means that <i>falling demand in our coin shops</i> (however bad/good for US sellers/buyers) says much more about this peculiar feeble mkt than about global investment in PMs. </p><p>2) It means <i>there is no 'Gold Bubble' in the USA ... </i>and arguably never was (even in 1980.) </p><p>3) It means that Gold 'demand' by Americans isn't the story now either; on the contrary, Americans have been <i>net losers </i>to Cash4Gold scamers (SOLD, for 40 cents on the Dollar.)</p><p>4) It means that >99% Americans 'don't get' Gold and probably never will - 10 years later and multiples higher, they're still clueless. That's the success of Wall St. Paper-Bug brainwashing.</p><p>5) It means we watch China, India and European bullion buyers very very closely - or global demand for PM ETFs. That's where POG and gold-focus goes ... from here on out.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd humbly suggest "Stay the course!" keep accumulating on any future POG dips, converting Paper into Real Assets, etc. A truly parabolic price-move (circa 2020?) will only occur when millions of American Dollar desperados pouring whatever's left into something of real value. In the 20th C. Americans have never witnessed this but it did happen in failed Confederate currencies 1864-5 and with Continentals in the late 1770s. Likewise, hundreds of other countries' paper fiatscos: read up on those, history doesn't repeat but it usually rhymes.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a chart of the German Mark during the hyperinflationary period:</p><p>[ATTACH=CONFIG]216986[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Look what's been happening to the Iranian Rial since June 2012: memorize the chart pattern & formation.</p><p>[ATTACH=CONFIG]216985[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Honestly, proof is always in the numbers. It's not about you, or me, or a friend in Idaho who thinks like us. The minuscule number of bullionists here (& on precious few similar web-forums) notwithstanding, trend is clear and has not changed. Americans don't get it! Too bad for them: pity the fool.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1576400, member: 41665"]Look at the WGC link on Page 1, here. In Q 3 2012, US Bar/Coin demand was 10.5 mt; global demand Bar/Coin was 294 m.t. [B]The US is less than 4% the global bullion investment, retail![/B] (Yes, I'm ignoring the junky vastly inflated kgold jewelry mkt as spurious, here.) 'Not a big deal' ? Ha, we're basically irrelevant to the current PM mkt. As investors, Americans own almost nothing. Also, the USA had net gold exports of 103 mt in Q1 2012: so we're now exporting ~10x what we import?! Scrap Gold is flowing out of the US at ever higher rates than Americans are buying. Compare & contrast the US share of global equity (proxy: [I]MSCI All Country World Index[/I]). The USA is still ~40% of the paper-game. In addition to grossly overrated RE, American schlubs hold more overpriced USD$-denominated paper assets than anyone else. In each downdraft, we'll lose more & more. When the Perfect Storm hits (circa 2018-22) [U]US investors will be totally wiped out[/U] - [I]because [/I]they cling to nothing but spec/fantasy paper "investments." That's alarming, no? What does this mean for American coin people? 1) It means that [I]falling demand in our coin shops[/I] (however bad/good for US sellers/buyers) says much more about this peculiar feeble mkt than about global investment in PMs. 2) It means [I]there is no 'Gold Bubble' in the USA ... [/I]and arguably never was (even in 1980.) 3) It means that Gold 'demand' by Americans isn't the story now either; on the contrary, Americans have been [I]net losers [/I]to Cash4Gold scamers (SOLD, for 40 cents on the Dollar.) 4) It means that >99% Americans 'don't get' Gold and probably never will - 10 years later and multiples higher, they're still clueless. That's the success of Wall St. Paper-Bug brainwashing. 5) It means we watch China, India and European bullion buyers very very closely - or global demand for PM ETFs. That's where POG and gold-focus goes ... from here on out. I'd humbly suggest "Stay the course!" keep accumulating on any future POG dips, converting Paper into Real Assets, etc. A truly parabolic price-move (circa 2020?) will only occur when millions of American Dollar desperados pouring whatever's left into something of real value. In the 20th C. Americans have never witnessed this but it did happen in failed Confederate currencies 1864-5 and with Continentals in the late 1770s. Likewise, hundreds of other countries' paper fiatscos: read up on those, history doesn't repeat but it usually rhymes. Here's a chart of the German Mark during the hyperinflationary period: [ATTACH=CONFIG]216986[/ATTACH] Look what's been happening to the Iranian Rial since June 2012: memorize the chart pattern & formation. [ATTACH=CONFIG]216985[/ATTACH] Honestly, proof is always in the numbers. It's not about you, or me, or a friend in Idaho who thinks like us. The minuscule number of bullionists here (& on precious few similar web-forums) notwithstanding, trend is clear and has not changed. Americans don't get it! Too bad for them: pity the fool.[/QUOTE]
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