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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Blueindian65, post: 752194, member: 17310&quot;]<b>2 books all of you should read before having this conversation</b></p><p><br /></p><p>--- The Republic- </p><p><a href="http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html" rel="nofollow">http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html</a></p><p>Also read Meditations by Marcus Arilius the first philospher king.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Second Book</p><p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=_Hrwu8KSmBIC&amp;dq=empire+hardt+and+negri&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bn&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=g3gXS9nMG5Gftgees7HbAw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=4&amp;ved=0CBoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://books.google.com/books?id=_Hrwu8KSmBIC&amp;dq=empire+hardt+and+negri&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bn&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=g3gXS9nMG5Gftgees7HbAw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=4&amp;ved=0CBoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=_Hrwu8KSmBIC&amp;dq=empire+hardt+and+negri&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bn&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=g3gXS9nMG5Gftgees7HbAw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=4&amp;ved=0CBoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The old days of imperial rule are dead. The world is controled threw the flow of capital and the multinational institutions that control it, and before anyone starts to hate. Yes Hardt and Negri are Post Marxist and Negri helped bomb a train station and people died making him a &quot;terroist&quot;, But The united states uses cluster bombs and land mines so...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Also it is really dumb to say &quot;Rome&quot; died. The eastern emprie survied for almost another 1000 years. While the city proper was saked not all of its citizens where killed Read Saint Agustus account of the city being saked and the Christians being spared because the Visigoths where christans themselfs. the empire evovled but it did not die. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Also The CATO institute sux. Libertainism is retardo while im all for suply side economics we need a governemnt[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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