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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1988164, member: 27832"]Peace, everyone, please. There's a lot of valuable discussion happening in this thread, and I'd hate to see it shut down for rules violations, either real or perceived.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I've said before, I'm a technical-analysis skeptic; I generally describe it as "astrology" or "numerology". [USER=29643]@NorthKorea[/USER] has offered perhaps the strongest defense I've seen so far, and it's given me a lot to think about. It's certainly a lot more convincing than the "...and <i>that</i> cloud looks like a descending wedge!" that I'm used to seeing.</p><p><br /></p><p>More to the point, I think [USER=71723]@V. Kurt Bellman[/USER] and [USER=29643]@NorthKorea[/USER] agree on one point: technical analysis works ("becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy") if most major market players are using it. It still seems to me that it's willfully ignoring the factors that <i>actually</i> drive prices, but it's not possible to have perfect knowledge of those factors. It's a bit like what drove behaviorism in psychology. I don't like behaviorism, either, but I acknowledge that it delivers (some) results. Heck, I don't even like statistics, but it seems to be the best substitute we have for omniscience.</p><p><br /></p><p>Kurt, several times you've mentioned the collapse of the photographic silver market. The numbers really are enormous. Don't you think, though, that most of that damage is done now? Demand from that source was something like 270 million ounces at its 1999 peak, almost 25% of total demand; last year, it was down to about 50 million ounces, just a hair over 5% of the market. From here, whether its decline gets steeper or shallower, it's just not big enough to have a huge market effect.</p><p><br /></p><p>There's constant pressure to reduce silver consumption in other industrial processes, because the stuff's expensive. There's constant pressure to reduce <i>all</i> feedstock expenses in industrial processes. But as we find ways to reduce the amount of silver those processes need, we keep finding new processes that require it. From a chemical-engineering-spectator point of view, I don't see silver demand diminishing in the large; it's just too incredibly useful in too many widely varying ways.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1988164, member: 27832"]Peace, everyone, please. There's a lot of valuable discussion happening in this thread, and I'd hate to see it shut down for rules violations, either real or perceived. As I've said before, I'm a technical-analysis skeptic; I generally describe it as "astrology" or "numerology". [USER=29643]@NorthKorea[/USER] has offered perhaps the strongest defense I've seen so far, and it's given me a lot to think about. It's certainly a lot more convincing than the "...and [I]that[/I] cloud looks like a descending wedge!" that I'm used to seeing. More to the point, I think [USER=71723]@V. Kurt Bellman[/USER] and [USER=29643]@NorthKorea[/USER] agree on one point: technical analysis works ("becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy") if most major market players are using it. It still seems to me that it's willfully ignoring the factors that [I]actually[/I] drive prices, but it's not possible to have perfect knowledge of those factors. It's a bit like what drove behaviorism in psychology. I don't like behaviorism, either, but I acknowledge that it delivers (some) results. Heck, I don't even like statistics, but it seems to be the best substitute we have for omniscience. Kurt, several times you've mentioned the collapse of the photographic silver market. The numbers really are enormous. Don't you think, though, that most of that damage is done now? Demand from that source was something like 270 million ounces at its 1999 peak, almost 25% of total demand; last year, it was down to about 50 million ounces, just a hair over 5% of the market. From here, whether its decline gets steeper or shallower, it's just not big enough to have a huge market effect. There's constant pressure to reduce silver consumption in other industrial processes, because the stuff's expensive. There's constant pressure to reduce [I]all[/I] feedstock expenses in industrial processes. But as we find ways to reduce the amount of silver those processes need, we keep finding new processes that require it. From a chemical-engineering-spectator point of view, I don't see silver demand diminishing in the large; it's just too incredibly useful in too many widely varying ways.[/QUOTE]
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