And, somewhere is someone reading this board. Then yelling at Mao Lin Ding. ****#%$$*%^^^&%$## and furthermore %%^(^*$#@@(@@ Now, back into your hole and figure out a way to make it weigh the same with no magnetic metal in it. That paper that came with it looks Chinese. I buy and sell my Patented Product from there. They do a good job, but we have to QC the inventory every 6 months because they cheat if possible, a little more DE in the product saves them 20 Renmibni. Sad, we empower them, give them EVERYTHING to grow and they cheat for a penny or two. I certainly can see this coming from other places too. China is always our OUT when there is a problem, but a good crook wouldn't import via China, they would go to South America to save the shipping costs. Easier to get in and out... No one will be looking for those coins coming from say, El Salvador
I went to the link and checked the seller's feedback. No negative feedback or warning for future buyers? I realize the sale was recent but before I posted here, I would have left feedback to help warn future buyers.
It could be correct that you cannot leave negative feedback on a cancelled sale. This is clearly a defect (among others) with eBay. If feedback can be left but it has to be positive or neutral, I would still warn prospective buyers in the comments: e.g., "Seller sold a fake, he/she refunded my money." It does not impress me if a seller refunds the bid because the coin was fake- the seller has no choice; paypal will make the seller process a refund even if the fake was sold unwittingly.
Have It appears the seller has many more of these fakes for sale. This seller should be banned from selling on Ebay and the FBI should be knocking on his door. At the very least this seller should be reported to Ebay .
I messaged the seller I got this from, and they said that they get their coins from a variety of sources. Because it was in the box with the COA, they just thought it was real. They apologized to me for the mistake. I'm not going to leave them a neg - I think that it was an honest mistake. (@Ana Silverbell @Casman )
I've done a lot of research on this over the past few years. eBay is one of the easiest sites to scam sellers on, actually. Their Money Back Guarantee covers refunds buyers for practically any reason. It doesn't matter if you put tracking on your package as a seller - they can still say they received an empty package or send you back a rock. I volunteer at the eBay Community and have seen countless sellers scammed by their buyers for free items. It's very sad that they allow this to happen.
If it's a US seller, I'm sure the Secret Service would love to talk to them. Even though it's bullion, it's actual US currency ($1) so it's a federal crime to sell a fake.
Sounds like it may have been an honest mistake from your seller, wonder where they got it from though. Maybe they can go after the people they purchased it from.
Thanks for the info. that's why I'm on the US MINT enrollment service. I have bought some older proof coins on EBAY will have to check.
I think we've discussed this at some length in other threads, and concluded that the SS isn't interested in pursuing numismatic counterfeits.
Not only the inconsistent design details, but the relief is wrong, as is the poor penetration of the reverse die into the planchet, mirrored fields between the eagle's wing feathers . . . and so on.
I hope someday to be able to recognize things like that. Without comparing it in hand to a known real one, I'd be lost
Yeah, it would be terrible for them to actually do their job - it may not be a $100 bill, but it's still diminishing the currency of the U.S. That's why it's becoming such an issue - law enforcement doesn't bother to enforce the law.
For what it's worth, someone tried to run an empty-package scam on me for a couple of Indian Eagles a year or so ago. eBay required me to file a police report and send the information to them before they'd issue a refund. The local police were baffled, but obliging. Seemed to me that it was a mail-fraud issue, not a local-LE issue, and if it were local, it would be in the seller's jurisdiction. I did get my refund. I took this as a hopeful sign that maybe they're trying to make things a bit harder on buyer-side scammers.