Featured Here is a counterfeit 2018 Silver Eagle in mint packaging!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by *coins, May 17, 2018.

  1. *coins

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    I bought this on eBay and it came today. Counterfeit 2018 silver eagle. Why? The die is 180 degrees rotated (a common problem because the Chinese think our coins are rotated the same as theirs) and it sticks to a magnet. I checked the capsule with a 10x loupe, and it scratched where they pried it open.
    Just goes to say that everyone should always be careful when buying coins on eBay, even if it is in mint packaging.
    Photos attached. Do you guys see any other signs that show it is fake? DSC_5456.JPG DSC_5457.JPG DSC_5458.JPG DSC_5460.JPG
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 No Common Cents! Supporter

    That is a good looking fake.. Are you positive it's fake?
    Can we see the edge?
     
  4. If it is magnetic it is fake. Silver is non-magnetic.........
     
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  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    That rotation if it is oriented correctly is not 180, as that would be a direct reverse from medal orientation and the same as US coin orientation. It would be either 90 or 270. If you buy a counterfeit on EBay you are allowed a refund.
     
  6. *coins

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    I got a refund, and they let me keep it.
     
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  7. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Magnetic?!

    What's the weight on it? Quite intriguing but bad for the hobby...
     
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  8. *coins

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    Have not weighed it yet, but I will go and get that in a moment.
     
  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 No Common Cents! Supporter

    OK.. I'm not a silver coin or bullion collector.
    I just saw this video and it made sense -
     
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  10. *coins

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    Please excuse the rough photos...
    Below is a photo of my little magnet sticking to it:
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    And next is one of it on the scale - it weighs 28.46 grams.
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    And here is one of the reeded edge:
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  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yup, doesn't matter how good it looks if it weighs wrong and sticks to a magnet.

    Guess now we know who's buying some of those "2018 AMERICAN SILVER EAGLE PACKAGING NO COIN" listings. Getting your Eagle graded? Don't need the packaging? Why not sell it on to a scammer!
     
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  12. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Coin collecting can be so much phun.:confused:
     
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  13. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Thanks for sharing photos as well as your experience.

    A very good informative lesson as well as a sad day for collectors. I personally collect coins with the original mint packaging where possible. Alas it has come to this stage where everything must be scrutinized.
     
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  14. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    This is very disheartening.
     
  15. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Active Member

    @*coins Was there anything by looking that tipped you off to check it out? Most people that buy these with packaging won't bother testing or heck even look at it, it gets stored away.
     
  16. Jeepfreak81

    Jeepfreak81 Active Member

    That is a good looking fake, just goes to show that it's worth performing simple tests to make sure your coins are real when when you get them. Any guesses on what the metal is? Do you suppose it's plated with Silver and has some sort of cheap alloy underneath?
     
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  17. Insider

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    coins asked: "Do you guys see any other signs that show it is fake?"

    Yes, the design detail is different from a genuine coin. Don't know if it is obvious when posted on the Ebay site.
     
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  18. Casman

    Casman Member

    Maybe I missed it, but who is the seller? Unless that's now allowed, I'm new here.
     
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  19. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Better off paying a few dollars more and getting them direct from the mint if you want current proof ASE's instead of trying to find a bargain on Ebay..
     
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  20. hchcoin

    hchcoin Member

    Did the listing say it was coming from China? That would have been the first clue ;)
     
  21. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    It looks to have the wrong (old style) U on the reverse.
     
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