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<p>[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1180135, member: 3011"]Will creditors accept growing and unlimited quantities of perpetual debt that will never default but that can never be paid back as the condition of never defaulting? It's something you'll have to decide for yourself. If the issuance of additional debt was never a problem for government, why bother to end the gold standard? If issuing a trillion dollars in new debt makes no difference and doesn't cause a currency problem, why not issue $100 trillion? Or $1000 trillion? Or just pay off all personal and state debt with more Treasury debt [which will probably happen at some point to save the banks]? If it isn't currency there is no currency problem under your scenario. They seem to be doing this in Japan for a very long time with no bad side effects to the Yen. It's almost mystical. Why didn't anybody ever think of this before?</p><p><br /></p><p>We all have a problem in that virtually everyone alive today has lived most of their life in a fiat system. Schools don't even teach students how the gold standard operated prior to World War I except in a very general way that always ends with the Panic of 1907. Teachers can't even teach it. Antal Fekete is the only person I know who even bothered to write it down. Fiat is all we know. It seems normal, natural for money to depreciate and for the government to never run out of the stuff. It's almost as if everyone suffers from Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to money. People get uncomfortable when it is suggested that money should again be commodity backed or have some intrinsic value. It seems dangerous to limit money creation by the government. What sort of new idea is that? What happens if we run out of money? Won't terrible things happen? There isn't enough gold, is there? Most people prefer the 100% certainty of loss of purchasing power to the possibility that money could retain its purchasing power over time. Maybe it's because they secretly want to believe someone is in control of money, even if they know those in control are robbing them blind. It might be a prison, but at least they feed you in prison. Right?</p><p><br /></p><p>So I can say that it won't be business as usual, but I can't prove it. It has passed into the realm of ancient and forbidden knowledge.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1180135, member: 3011"]Will creditors accept growing and unlimited quantities of perpetual debt that will never default but that can never be paid back as the condition of never defaulting? It's something you'll have to decide for yourself. If the issuance of additional debt was never a problem for government, why bother to end the gold standard? If issuing a trillion dollars in new debt makes no difference and doesn't cause a currency problem, why not issue $100 trillion? Or $1000 trillion? Or just pay off all personal and state debt with more Treasury debt [which will probably happen at some point to save the banks]? If it isn't currency there is no currency problem under your scenario. They seem to be doing this in Japan for a very long time with no bad side effects to the Yen. It's almost mystical. Why didn't anybody ever think of this before? We all have a problem in that virtually everyone alive today has lived most of their life in a fiat system. Schools don't even teach students how the gold standard operated prior to World War I except in a very general way that always ends with the Panic of 1907. Teachers can't even teach it. Antal Fekete is the only person I know who even bothered to write it down. Fiat is all we know. It seems normal, natural for money to depreciate and for the government to never run out of the stuff. It's almost as if everyone suffers from Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to money. People get uncomfortable when it is suggested that money should again be commodity backed or have some intrinsic value. It seems dangerous to limit money creation by the government. What sort of new idea is that? What happens if we run out of money? Won't terrible things happen? There isn't enough gold, is there? Most people prefer the 100% certainty of loss of purchasing power to the possibility that money could retain its purchasing power over time. Maybe it's because they secretly want to believe someone is in control of money, even if they know those in control are robbing them blind. It might be a prison, but at least they feed you in prison. Right? So I can say that it won't be business as usual, but I can't prove it. It has passed into the realm of ancient and forbidden knowledge.[/QUOTE]
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