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<p>[QUOTE="Hawkwing74, post: 1179983, member: 30896"]Cloudsweeper, you are obviously pro-entitlement and anti-military spending. Many others, especially young people, don't have faith in the entitlements being there when we retire. I don't see how any tax increase can fund Medicare the way it is. I see Social Security as both a welfare scheme and a ponzi scheme, not an investment. I would instantly opt out of it and never collect a dime if I could. My 401k could more than double under such a scenario. </p><p> </p><p>I agree any solution will be painful, but I don't agree with your solution. </p><p> </p><p>I have always hated Social Security, but it is a popular program. I'm sure I am in the minority on a coin forum when I attack Social Security. </p><p> </p><p>To keep it solvent, my plan would be 3 parts: </p><p> </p><p>1) Raise tax cap for Social Security way above current. Social Security tax is a reverse progressive tax. This is ridiculous. Working poor and lower middle class have to pay a full percentage of their income while people making more stop paying at $106,500. </p><p> </p><p>2) Rich retirees should not receive Social Security. If you are still making say $250,000 in retirement, you don't need Social Security. It is a welfare plan, not an investment plan. Some sort of sliding scale should lower social security payouts for those already making plenty of money. </p><p> </p><p>3) Raise the eligibility age like you said. Though who wants to hire 66 or 67 year olds? I'm sure I don't know. But this is needed to save the program.</p><p> </p><p>I think Social Security is the least of our problems...Medicare would be much harder to fix. The problem with the entitlements is mainly demographics, and raising taxes to the moon doesn't mitigate that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Hawkwing74, post: 1179983, member: 30896"]Cloudsweeper, you are obviously pro-entitlement and anti-military spending. Many others, especially young people, don't have faith in the entitlements being there when we retire. I don't see how any tax increase can fund Medicare the way it is. I see Social Security as both a welfare scheme and a ponzi scheme, not an investment. I would instantly opt out of it and never collect a dime if I could. My 401k could more than double under such a scenario. I agree any solution will be painful, but I don't agree with your solution. I have always hated Social Security, but it is a popular program. I'm sure I am in the minority on a coin forum when I attack Social Security. To keep it solvent, my plan would be 3 parts: 1) Raise tax cap for Social Security way above current. Social Security tax is a reverse progressive tax. This is ridiculous. Working poor and lower middle class have to pay a full percentage of their income while people making more stop paying at $106,500. 2) Rich retirees should not receive Social Security. If you are still making say $250,000 in retirement, you don't need Social Security. It is a welfare plan, not an investment plan. Some sort of sliding scale should lower social security payouts for those already making plenty of money. 3) Raise the eligibility age like you said. Though who wants to hire 66 or 67 year olds? I'm sure I don't know. But this is needed to save the program. I think Social Security is the least of our problems...Medicare would be much harder to fix. The problem with the entitlements is mainly demographics, and raising taxes to the moon doesn't mitigate that.[/QUOTE]
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