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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Cloudsweeper99, post: 1179906, member: 3011&quot;]I think it&#039;s a mistake to include unfunded entitlements.&nbsp; They aren&#039;t the same as debt because they can be eliminated by the stroke of a pen, and eventually will be.&nbsp; For example, if you increase the age at which folks collect social security and medicare by a year, you receive one more year of payments and eliminate one more year of benefits to the entire population.&nbsp; A simple move like this, which eventually will be forced, instantly eliminates a very large portion of the unfunded liabilities.&nbsp; There are other things that can be done also such as means testing.&nbsp; It&#039;s going to happen because it has to happen whether the current crop of politicians do it or not.&nbsp; State and personal debt will be defaulted/restructured at some point and state employee benefits will be cut.&nbsp; It&#039;s already happening.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The point is that even though the doom and gloomers won&#039;t like it, the current problems will be solved over time and society will not collapse.&nbsp; I know those folks are going to miss the opportunity to live in their bunker and defend their stash of canned goods to the last bullet, but that&#039;s just the way it is.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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