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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2086869, member: 73489"]<b><span style="color: #b30000">The gold price went up 6-fold between 2002 and 2011</span></b> and virtually all mining companies saw their stock prices go DOWN or do nothing.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #b30000">Tens of billions of CAPX on gold mines have been written off</span></b>. Entire projects have been mothballed. Stock prices have round-tripped back 10-12 years, even though the price of gold is 4x higher.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000">These guys undertook tons of CAPX when gold was over $1,500/oz. </span></b>Net debt was a few billion for most of the 2000's....today a bunch of the biggest gold firms has closer to $30 billion in debt and debt/EBITDA (a measure of leverage) ratios double a decade ago.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000">These guys ALL have to produce to service their debt.</span></b> They all want SOMEONE ELSE to stop producing and mining -- not them. It's a game of chicken but they all may get run down trying to cross the road.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Mark Twain once said that a gold mine was a hole in the ground with a liar near the opening.</b> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> You look at how the CEOs of these companies have been stewards of their shareholders capital and you know what Twain was talking about.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2086869, member: 73489"][B][COLOR=#b30000]The gold price went up 6-fold between 2002 and 2011[/COLOR][/B] and virtually all mining companies saw their stock prices go DOWN or do nothing. [B][COLOR=#b30000]Tens of billions of CAPX on gold mines have been written off[/COLOR][/B]. Entire projects have been mothballed. Stock prices have round-tripped back 10-12 years, even though the price of gold is 4x higher. [B][COLOR=#ff0000]These guys undertook tons of CAPX when gold was over $1,500/oz. [/COLOR][/B]Net debt was a few billion for most of the 2000's....today a bunch of the biggest gold firms has closer to $30 billion in debt and debt/EBITDA (a measure of leverage) ratios double a decade ago. [B][COLOR=#ff0000]These guys ALL have to produce to service their debt.[/COLOR][/B] They all want SOMEONE ELSE to stop producing and mining -- not them. It's a game of chicken but they all may get run down trying to cross the road.:p [B]Mark Twain once said that a gold mine was a hole in the ground with a liar near the opening.[/B] :D You look at how the CEOs of these companies have been stewards of their shareholders capital and you know what Twain was talking about.[/QUOTE]
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