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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;World Colonial, post: 2403640, member: 78153&quot;]When I have read manipulation claims, the implied assumption is that using derivatives disproportionately or only suppresses the price.&nbsp; If there is any actual evidence of it, I have never seen it anywhere; not proof that it succeeded much less for 30+ years.&nbsp; Most traders of derivative contracts are only speculating on the change in monetary value and have no interest in taking physical delivery.</p><p><br /></p><p>Like the Hunt&#039;s, it would be easy enough for physical buyers to overwhelm any actual or supposed manipulation attempt in the silver market because the market is puny.&nbsp; My recollection is that annual production has a market value of about $10B at current prices and a fraction of this amount in additional inflows would be enough to send the price soaring.&nbsp; The reason it hasn&#039;t happened is because there aren&#039;t enough buyers except during bubbles such as 1979 and 2011.</p><p><br /></p><p>The gold market is a lot larger but still a small fraction of the stock and bond markets.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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