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<p>[QUOTE="World Colonial, post: 2403412, member: 78153"]I agree with Jim Rogers but there are many other reasons available which provide much better evidence against any (implied) manipulation claim.</p><p><br /></p><p>With gold, it is historically overpriced versus most physical goods and presumably many services. The 1995 book At the Crest of the Tidal Wave includes a chart showing gold's relative purchasing power. It was above the top of the price range for the prior 200 years and since then, it has become more relatively expensive. I would have to dig it up but an Elliott Wave International special issue within the last five years shows the same result versus a basket of commodities. I don't have equivalent data but to my knowledge, silver is not significantly underpriced (if at all) versus most other commodities or other physical goods either.</p><p><br /></p><p>Gold is a lot more important than silver in the financial system, since it is used as a central bank reserve asset while silver has no role and is predominantly an industrial metal. If there was concerted manipulation, it sure has been dismal failure because from a multiple of 25 in February 1976, it has increased to about 70 today.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 2011, the Swiss National Bank attempted to suppress the CHF-Euro cross rate. I believe in 2014 after accumulating over $500B in FX reserves, they capitulated. In theory, the SNB could have issued an unlimited amount of CHF. In the real world where people actually operate, they did not. If the SNB failed to suppress the CHF, there isn't any reason to believe that "material" (as opposed to possibly limited) gold or silver price suppression has been successful either since neither can be issued in unlimited quantities and anyone can buy it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="World Colonial, post: 2403412, member: 78153"]I agree with Jim Rogers but there are many other reasons available which provide much better evidence against any (implied) manipulation claim. With gold, it is historically overpriced versus most physical goods and presumably many services. The 1995 book At the Crest of the Tidal Wave includes a chart showing gold's relative purchasing power. It was above the top of the price range for the prior 200 years and since then, it has become more relatively expensive. I would have to dig it up but an Elliott Wave International special issue within the last five years shows the same result versus a basket of commodities. I don't have equivalent data but to my knowledge, silver is not significantly underpriced (if at all) versus most other commodities or other physical goods either. Gold is a lot more important than silver in the financial system, since it is used as a central bank reserve asset while silver has no role and is predominantly an industrial metal. If there was concerted manipulation, it sure has been dismal failure because from a multiple of 25 in February 1976, it has increased to about 70 today. In 2011, the Swiss National Bank attempted to suppress the CHF-Euro cross rate. I believe in 2014 after accumulating over $500B in FX reserves, they capitulated. In theory, the SNB could have issued an unlimited amount of CHF. In the real world where people actually operate, they did not. If the SNB failed to suppress the CHF, there isn't any reason to believe that "material" (as opposed to possibly limited) gold or silver price suppression has been successful either since neither can be issued in unlimited quantities and anyone can buy it.[/QUOTE]
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