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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 1633612, member: 26302&quot;]I would ask what is &quot;manipulation&quot; exactly? Sellers want high prices, buyers want low prices. It is kind of funny how small physical buyers of PM, (usually the ones wanting prices lower), are always the ones screaming manipulation. </p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, what is manipulation versus normal buying and selling, higher and lower, on a market? What would be the definition in people&#039;s minds? If a buyer comes onto a market and buys a large amount, enough to move it higher, is that manipulation? Is someone selling enough to drive it lower manipulation? Or is it only the fact of the paper contracts that makes it &quot;manipulation&quot;? Everyone knows that for every paper contract you sell, you have to buy back before it expires, right? If you aren&#039;t transfering physical PM, then the largest SELLER of contracts at the beginning of a period has to be the largest BUYER of contracts at the end. If JPM is the largest seller of contract, (just assuming), then by definition they have to be the largest BUYER of contracts as well, to settle the contracts.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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