Gold Premiums

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Randy Abercrombie, Apr 18, 2020.

  1. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I haven’t been buying or selling my gold. I been satisfied where I am for a while now, so I haven’t been actively buying for a while.

    Last week a friend of mine that knows I mess around with coins and and PM’s asked if I could find him some gold to put in his safe. So I been hitting up my regular sources and everything I see is substantially over spot..... Called my dealer buddy that can find anything and he tells me that even if I can even find pre-33 gold that the current premiums are sky high right now.

    So is this some result of our upside down Coronavirus world right now? People maybe hoarding PM’s creating a supply/demand imbalance?
     
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Premiums always go up when sellers are worried about being able to replenish their supply at current prices. I think what you are seeing is the result of a broad-based underlying belief that money can be made faster by holding onto what gold one possesses right now, than by selling it and replacing it.
     
  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Sound like my best advice to my friend would be to wait before he scratches that itch then. This is just not a buyers market.
     
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  5. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    If you can even find a seller.
     
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  6. dennis5151

    dennis5151 Ole Grim and I are on first name basis.

    New member here testing ability to post with a warning on gold. I have seen numbers stating approximately 42,000 counterfeit coins per month enter the USA. I have two of them, both rejected by PCGS. I was also burned by the Perth Mint gold bar counterfeit ring. I was able to get my money back on one coin and the gold bar.
    In regards to the price of gold, fear and greed is driving the price up. If you plan to buy and hold, don't do it. If you want to speculate (gamble), now is the time but be aware a cure for C-19 is already on the market and this panicdemic will soon be over.
     
  7. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah... That would seem to be the message. Just six weeks ago my dealer was turning gold away he had so much.
     
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  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    You are correct. Sadly, the counterfeit market has been a big black eye on our hobby in recent years.
     
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  9. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    I seem to remember reading that there were some major supply disruptions coming out of Europe's lockdown, resulting in a shortage of smaller gold bars and, hence, a premium for physical over spot.
     
  10. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Where did you obtain this data? Thanks
     
  11. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    Oh really...
     
  12. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    IMO there is no good time to sell one’s gold, unless you really really need FRNs.
     
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  13. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    I just sold half my gold this week and got well over spot for AGEs and Buffalos. I'd been holding some for quite a few years, my wife has been impatient with my promises that "I'll sell when the price rises." I immediately took the proceeds and paid down a chunk on our little vacation home's mortgage. Mama's happy, I'm OK with it. Still have half left.

    Now, if silver would spike again....

    Steve
     
  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Can you cite some facts to back that statement up?
     
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  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    No cure yet, at least one Dr charged with fraud for selling a "miracle cure".

    Some preliminary testing suggests that the virus is killed by sunlight and that transmission outdoors is lower during the day, during hot days, and during humid days. That was from a leaked early experiment that needs to be proven but what most expected to be true.

    Also growing testing evidence and studies are starting to show the virus has infected a lot more people and is less deadly than initially reported particularly one out of Stanford that found antibodies in people to be 50-85 times higher than reported numbers. Needs to be peer reviewed and figure out how significant, but viruses are almost more common than reported

    The stock of Gilead Sciences also popped on Thursday Friday after one of their clinical trials for a drug was leaked that showed a lot of promise, but it's an incomplete study though it is a more advanced one of over overwhelmingly the most severe patients

    There's a lot to be hopeful for, but yea the claim there is already a cure on the market is false
     
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  16. losthomer

    losthomer Active Member

    Enlighten me with this cure.
     
  17. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    People aren't going to be wanting to separate themselves from their currency or money (gold or silver) for a while. Best to wait until people don't want it at the time.

    As far as going up in value, I prefer it doesn't. That is just an indication of problems or inflation, and doesn't mean you're going to get rich - that's not why you buy gold and/or silver.
     
  18. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    It's better than paying $3,000 an ounce....:D
     
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  19. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member


    where did you buy these counterfeits?
     
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  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    You ought to be careful of what you claim on a public forums. Check your facts first.
     
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  21. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I passed the "I don't really have more room to store it" stage a while ago. My dream would be silver spikes but PT and gold stay they same, and I would swap out silver for them. However, if silver spikes it will probably mean the others do too, so I would have to take a gamble to convert to USD and wait for prices to come back down. I am fine with the value in my "pile", just with the pile was more compact and didn't weigh so much.
     
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