Yeah, its probably not going down past $4000 an oz. But for us buyers, its a nice treat to see it go down too 2020 levels. $6K gold price is not good for our hobby, and I have over 800 oz. in my collection. But if you are NOT selling, what is the point. Most of mine are not effected by bullion prices, the rarity and quality make them $$$$.
Awww come on Jeff. You saw my . I was just playing wit ya. And complete openness and full disclosure, your one month profit was 16.7%. Nobody could have predicted what PM's were going to do last year.
Stock market is really manipulating prices in PM,S dont think theres going to be a major turn around until the strait opens again, could be a great opportunity to buy on this dip
So far the "things" they're "doing" are helping in the wrong direction. I don't have a great deal of faith that there's a plan for reversing that.
Separate markets, stock market doesn't really impact gold over time. Yup....one thing's for sure...if you want or need to buy gold...or are "investing" for the long-haul....buying at $4,500 is better than $5,500.
you are right, letting them sell their oil, allowing their tankers passage is bonkers. ONLY way to win is regime change. ONLY way is either a Normandy land invasion, move W-East, fully occupy Iran, allow Shah to rule. Second, less bloodshed, Shut off Iran's finances, bankrupt them, tell them, open the Strait or you guys will not sell a drop of oil, total blockade, no mercy. I am a way better military strategist then Hegseth. You cannot bomb a regime into submission, unless you use Curtis LeMay tactics like the horrible Tokyo 44 firebombing, Hiroshima, Nagasaki. So far the Israelis and USA have been doing precision bombing with few civilian deaths, unlike WW2 carpet annihilation bombing.
Not only is the national debt at $40T, but household debt is at $18.8T. Think about those numbers for a moment . . . that's over $150,000 for every man, woman and child in America. While prices continue to rise with increases in cost, they are not rising because of price elasticity, and growing margins . . . a bad omen for growth of businesses, and an indicator that stagflation is taking hold. Most other nations are in similarly dire straights, so the outlook remains the same for their economies as well. This drop presents more buying opportunity, so I'm still very long on gold. Reflecting my mindset is the fact that, as gold sets new highs I've been inching prices upward, and when it pulls back I've not been dropping prices . . . I'm letting the inventory weather the short-term correction, and waiting for the highs to return. I think it will be a long time before conditions change my perspective.
They're not good...but you can't let "Black Swan" items dictate your investment plans. Planning on 5 or 6 Sigma events to happen in your lifetime -- if ever -- is not wise from an investing POV. Look at Greece....much worse numbers than ours....Socialist bufoonery since the 1980's....and a 3rd-rate, tourist-driven economy....and yet it STILL took almost 30 years for their situation to implode back in 2011-12.
Since when is a very predictable decline in economic conditions a black swan event? By their very definition, black swan events are not foreseeable. Economic declines resulting from excess debt have been a very regular occurrence in world history. In my mind, Greek officials temporarily benefiting from the formation of the European Union was more likely the 5 or 6 sigma event you referenced. It took much longer for the Greek debt crisis to come to the forefront because the implicit backing of the European Union suppressed the costs of Greek officials borrowing to mask their issues. The 2009 global financial crisis brought back the higher costs of borrowing, and Greece could not contend with that. That our national debt situation is out of control has been known for decades now, so we are well due for our medicine, and everyone knows it. As for me, gold is indeed part of my investment / protection strategy, but only part.
Greece got into their mess, by being the most unproductive nation in the EU. The EU was basically run by the most productive, disciplined, precise, hard working nation on the planet Germany. After WW2 Germany again became the economic powerhouse in Europe, now have second largest gold reserves, are the economic engine of Europe.Now under Merz, will also have strongest military, a gesture to the Kremlin not to try to bully the EU. The EU has problems, with certain members like Orban (Hungary) hopefully gone by April 12th. and Fico in Slovakia both Putin puppets. Across the pond, Canada, USA, Mexico all have huge debts. While Putin had to sell most of his gold reserves to China, the Russian economy is on life support, which is a good thing. Bad actors like Russia, China, Iran cause problems ad finitum, but if they have no money, their industrial-military complex goes kaput. In the end, the only thing of value are precious metals, and thats why the prices will keep escalating, once the Hormuz Strait is open, and hopefully that evil regime is gone forever.
I'm not convinced America's "decline" is inevitable and even if were to happen in 2075, that's not really what we call an investable actionable event. If I told you in 1946 with the 20-year Treasury bond at 2.4% that a 35-year bond bear market had started that wouldn't end until September 1981 with that same bond yielding 15.1%.....you wouldn't have been able to make much $$$ of it until the 1970's. OTOH, telling you a stock bear market had begun in January 1973 or January 1981 or August 1987....that would have made you $$$. Timing is everything, TC !
I wrote nothing of an American decline in particular, but of a decline in economic conditions. You’re right about timing . . . I want my chair before the music stops.
China has major demographic problems as does Europe. AI is a powerful boost to GDP growth and I've seen studies that it could boost real GDP by 1% or so which would eliminate the debt in 20 years.
I remember in the late 90s when we had budget surpluses, and the tech boom was going to eliminate the debt. I see distinct similarities in the beliefs people are forming about AI. ...but, as the singularitarians tell us, it's different when we create entities smarter than any of us. We might soon see an Earthly paradise, or we might see Hell on Earth, or we might see nothing at all because we're extinct. Me, I expect to see us bumbling along as we always have, with some new surprises stirred into the mix.
And the floor isnt falling out its gone !! GOLD down to $4,368.11 for the flipper investor this isnt good news, for me calling COSTCO St.george and see if the have any 1 OZ bars in
Its still a bad trend when Govts print money, to sustain bad fiscal policies like the US has been since 1933.
We HAVE to print excess dollars as the global reserve financial currency. We HAVE to run a trade deficit and a capital account surplus.