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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1573627, member: 41665"]1) A few years ago, I carefully studied the asset allocation premises of Gold in investor portfolios - I looked to see what (if any) allocation to Au/PMs other professionals were advocating to clients. Our firm had already invited one of the GLD managers at State Street to speak to staff; that guy recomended just "3%" as appropriate to HNW individuals' portfolios. I came out of that meeting looking like a total Gold Bug, LOL</p><p><br /></p><p>In 2007, the 'Gold allocation' was less than 0.2% of retail investors' portfolio assets in the USA - so how high is it now? Casey Research came to similar conclusions abit later (2010) maybe much the same rationale if not methodology.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also insisted (and maintain) that we will NOT see a retail 'Gold Bubble' until Gold rises to at least ~10% of investor assets; Gold isn't popular nor even common in MOST portfolios, yet? What hard data contradicts this, please.</p><p><br /></p><p>2) Beyond the Permanent Portfolio (25% Gold), one of the more interesting and Gold-positive funds was <i>The Pimco Commodity Real Return Strategy </i>(PCRIX). The fund’s benchmark is the <i>Dow Jones-UBSCommodity Index Total Return</i>, 13% PMs. </p><p><br /></p><p>DowJones breathlessly announced it's scoop back in August - did anyone at DJ bother to fact check? </p><p>>>THE SCOOP: In an exclusive interview with Dow Jones Newswires on Aug. 22, Pimco's commodity portfolio manager Nic Johnson revealed that the world's biggest bond-fund manager had recently increased its gold-futures holdings. Pimco's bet...indicates growing concerns about inflation and the value of the dollar.<<</p><p><br /></p><p>ZeroHedge was reporting the Gold stake of this fund was 11.5% back in August 2012, quoting Nic Johnson (co-manager?): </p><p><a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/pimco-increases-gold-allocation-105-115-commodity-fund" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/pimco-increases-gold-allocation-105-115-commodity-fund" rel="nofollow">http://www.zerohedge.com/news/pimco-increases-gold-allocation-105-115-commodity-fund</a></p><p><br /></p><p>There's<i> plenty of pro-Gold commentary </i>here (dated October 2012):</p><p><a href="http://www.pimco.com/EN/Insights/Pages/GOLD-The-Simple-Facts.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pimco.com/EN/Insights/Pages/GOLD-The-Simple-Facts.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.pimco.com/EN/Insights/Pages/GOLD-The-Simple-Facts.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p>But <b>as I look at the <i>current </i>fund page allocations AND 6/30/12 Holdings Report, Gold/PMs are <i>neglible </i>- much less than 0.1% of assets. </b>Are Messrs. Worah & Johnson trading "in" and "out" and now back "in" Gold positions (that "-24%) maybe? What am I misreading? I don't mean to sound conspiratorial or cynical, but "Where's the Gold?" Or is this just a rope-a-dope Gold-plated marketing ploy, designed ensnare wannabe Gold-allocators & investors (institutional or retail) who aren't paying attention to what's under the hood? </p><p><br /></p><p>p.s. this thread can also be broadly used to discuss so-called "Gold-based Mutual Fund investments" - flashy PR notwithstanding, PIMCO doesn't have one btw.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1573627, member: 41665"]1) A few years ago, I carefully studied the asset allocation premises of Gold in investor portfolios - I looked to see what (if any) allocation to Au/PMs other professionals were advocating to clients. Our firm had already invited one of the GLD managers at State Street to speak to staff; that guy recomended just "3%" as appropriate to HNW individuals' portfolios. I came out of that meeting looking like a total Gold Bug, LOL In 2007, the 'Gold allocation' was less than 0.2% of retail investors' portfolio assets in the USA - so how high is it now? Casey Research came to similar conclusions abit later (2010) maybe much the same rationale if not methodology. I also insisted (and maintain) that we will NOT see a retail 'Gold Bubble' until Gold rises to at least ~10% of investor assets; Gold isn't popular nor even common in MOST portfolios, yet? What hard data contradicts this, please. 2) Beyond the Permanent Portfolio (25% Gold), one of the more interesting and Gold-positive funds was [I]The Pimco Commodity Real Return Strategy [/I](PCRIX). The fund’s benchmark is the [I]Dow Jones-UBSCommodity Index Total Return[/I], 13% PMs. DowJones breathlessly announced it's scoop back in August - did anyone at DJ bother to fact check? >>THE SCOOP: In an exclusive interview with Dow Jones Newswires on Aug. 22, Pimco's commodity portfolio manager Nic Johnson revealed that the world's biggest bond-fund manager had recently increased its gold-futures holdings. Pimco's bet...indicates growing concerns about inflation and the value of the dollar.<< ZeroHedge was reporting the Gold stake of this fund was 11.5% back in August 2012, quoting Nic Johnson (co-manager?): [URL]http://www.zerohedge.com/news/pimco-increases-gold-allocation-105-115-commodity-fund[/URL] There's[I] plenty of pro-Gold commentary [/I]here (dated October 2012): [URL]http://www.pimco.com/EN/Insights/Pages/GOLD-The-Simple-Facts.aspx[/URL] But [B]as I look at the [I]current [/I]fund page allocations AND 6/30/12 Holdings Report, Gold/PMs are [I]neglible [/I]- much less than 0.1% of assets. [/B]Are Messrs. Worah & Johnson trading "in" and "out" and now back "in" Gold positions (that "-24%) maybe? What am I misreading? I don't mean to sound conspiratorial or cynical, but "Where's the Gold?" Or is this just a rope-a-dope Gold-plated marketing ploy, designed ensnare wannabe Gold-allocators & investors (institutional or retail) who aren't paying attention to what's under the hood? p.s. this thread can also be broadly used to discuss so-called "Gold-based Mutual Fund investments" - flashy PR notwithstanding, PIMCO doesn't have one btw.[/QUOTE]
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