gold bars in packaging

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  1. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member

    Valcambi and Pamp Suisse. have you bought any and why would you?
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If I can't feel the gold or silver than I'm not interested. If I want to feel plastic than I'll grab a bottled water.
  4. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    No way! Too easy to counterfeit, Sum Yung Guy would go crazy with that counterfeiting opportunity. laughhard.gif
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  5. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer Well-Known Member

    Nah, I'll pass. The incredible premium just kills it.
  6. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Premium is too high for the Valcambi, and I've seen too many counterfeits of the Pamp Suisse.
    I would go for coins - Maple Leafs or Buffaloes.
  7. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Both Valcambi and Pamp Suisse come with ridiculous premiums !
    And i would have to ask the question why? i dont here much talk
    About them or see anybody buying these, staying with Gold coins
    Such as these is the hot ticket :)
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  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    The beast is a hot series right now and it doesnt come wrapped in plastic..LOL
    But if your going to invest in these buy them when they first come out as
    There closer to spot the dragon and the lion especially are over $2,000 right
    Now, talk about inflation.
  11. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    My favorite is the Krugger ! usually always around spot, the coin isnt
    Really to exciting though only the year changes..LOL.
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  15. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member

    but Krugs aren't .999
  16. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    There is no difference in value between a Krugger and lets say a buffalo
    Which is 24K, being 22K only means there are other metals present.

    24K is more of a presentation piece and very delicate, where the Krugger
    And Eagle are more durable and used for commerce.
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  17. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    Pamp Suisse gold bars are now sold in Veriscan packaging, which adds a measure of security and authenticity - these have also been counterfeited, so buyer beware :cool:

  18. DaveChapin

    DaveChapin New Member

    I really detest that kind of packaging. Makes it impossible to test the item w/o destroying it (the packaging that is).

    Pamp does have same extremely nice plastic protective packaging for their larger bars though which allows easy bar removal. So that’s what I get.
    Tests I do include:
    - basic weight
    - strong magnets and a very sensitive scale to measure the diamagnetic effect.. which gold has and tungsten has the opposite
    - specific gravity
    - ultrasonic thickness measurement

    The 2nd test is useful for gold to eliminate the possibility of tungsten presence. Not so useful for platinum. Fortunately for platinum, it is so dense, the weight & specific gravity tests are practically enough to prove it’s Pt. Anything more dense than Pt usually costs MORE than Pt. At great expense someone could try to counterfeit a Pt bar with something denser like iridium or osmium and alloy w/ cheap tungsten, but that alloy might cost more than pure Pt and even then could be defeated with the ultrasonic test.
  19. myownprivy

    myownprivy Well-Known Member

    I really don't understand why someone would want an ugly gold bar, besides the fact they are so easy to counterfeit.
  20. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    A select few bars have caracter.
  21. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member

    coins just seem better.
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