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<p>[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1300176, member: 29643"]1) The dollar (as most take it to mean) is represented by Federal Reserve Notes. FRNs are backed by debt issued from the US Treasury.</p><p><br /></p><p>2) I claimed five different elements that parlay into the value of the USD. Also, all currency officially issued by the US (which invalidates the $10,000 notes that were thrown out in a fire) govt for circulation is valid to this day. Since wartime "Hawaii" notes were withdrawn from circulation (and redeemable), I assume they would be classified akin to the $10,000 note.</p><p><br /></p><p>By contrast, the Russian gov't revalued its currency in 1995, making old rubles worth 1/1000 of new rubles. Given that 1 USD ~ 30.5 PP, that would mean that 1 USD ~ 30,500 PP without revaluation. This would imply that the number of rubles in circulation vastly exceed the number of dollars, thereby rendering your argument mute.</p><p><br /></p><p>Basically, even if the aggregated holdings of the Russian Federation exceeded that of the US govt by a factor of 10:1, the circulating currency would render the ratio to reflect a US dollar having a strength of value of 100:1 against the ruble.</p><p><br /></p><p>3) I don't understand your point. The US gov't holds 8100 tons of gold. That's good for third on the list in terms of %age (74.7%) of FOREX accounted for by gold... the two countries ahead of the US are Portugal and Greece. For your argument, Russia has 6.7% of their FOREX assets backed by gold. China has 1.7%.</p><p><br /></p><p>The key issue destroying faith in the dollar is that the US economy is based upon debt. This was a question I asked Goldman Sachs in 2007 related to the spread of the carry trade to the retail sector. I was told the debt would come from somewhere else should it dry up. This is a PRIVATE SECTOR financier. This isn't a problem of the US gov't. US gov't spending is driven by private contracts. If the US gov't spends a dollar, it results in $5 of commerce. The argument of a smaller gov't for the sake of economic stability has never been proven. I'm a conservative. I advocate for state's rights. I also understand that we can't shutdown the US gov't until the private sector figures out a more efficient distribution of assets.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, the problem with US debt is how it's derived. It's primarily money owed to Social Security. However, no one wants to decrease/delay Social Security benefits with the sheer mass of voters that baby boomers represent.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: BTW, Fatima, what aspect of the US's involvement in Libya did you find to be a violation of the US Constitution?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1300176, member: 29643"]1) The dollar (as most take it to mean) is represented by Federal Reserve Notes. FRNs are backed by debt issued from the US Treasury. 2) I claimed five different elements that parlay into the value of the USD. Also, all currency officially issued by the US (which invalidates the $10,000 notes that were thrown out in a fire) govt for circulation is valid to this day. Since wartime "Hawaii" notes were withdrawn from circulation (and redeemable), I assume they would be classified akin to the $10,000 note. By contrast, the Russian gov't revalued its currency in 1995, making old rubles worth 1/1000 of new rubles. Given that 1 USD ~ 30.5 PP, that would mean that 1 USD ~ 30,500 PP without revaluation. This would imply that the number of rubles in circulation vastly exceed the number of dollars, thereby rendering your argument mute. Basically, even if the aggregated holdings of the Russian Federation exceeded that of the US govt by a factor of 10:1, the circulating currency would render the ratio to reflect a US dollar having a strength of value of 100:1 against the ruble. 3) I don't understand your point. The US gov't holds 8100 tons of gold. That's good for third on the list in terms of %age (74.7%) of FOREX accounted for by gold... the two countries ahead of the US are Portugal and Greece. For your argument, Russia has 6.7% of their FOREX assets backed by gold. China has 1.7%. The key issue destroying faith in the dollar is that the US economy is based upon debt. This was a question I asked Goldman Sachs in 2007 related to the spread of the carry trade to the retail sector. I was told the debt would come from somewhere else should it dry up. This is a PRIVATE SECTOR financier. This isn't a problem of the US gov't. US gov't spending is driven by private contracts. If the US gov't spends a dollar, it results in $5 of commerce. The argument of a smaller gov't for the sake of economic stability has never been proven. I'm a conservative. I advocate for state's rights. I also understand that we can't shutdown the US gov't until the private sector figures out a more efficient distribution of assets. Lastly, the problem with US debt is how it's derived. It's primarily money owed to Social Security. However, no one wants to decrease/delay Social Security benefits with the sheer mass of voters that baby boomers represent. Edit: BTW, Fatima, what aspect of the US's involvement in Libya did you find to be a violation of the US Constitution?[/QUOTE]
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