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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1608419, member: 41665"]I consider cloudsweeper99's off-topic garbage reply unworthy of response. (His red-herrings, misquotes, straw-men etc. = "garbage.") </p><p>He replies (all too often) simply to be digressive & contentious, also. Gold is not equities, EOS. Jesse Livermore has been used to frame any number of opinions - he's been misquoted/misused but countless wannabe gurus and frauds forever, so I'm never surprised to see that again. Livermore also died broken by the mkt - suicide as a "failure" - but for annuities he wisely squirreled away in 1917. Insert advertisement for bullion-backed insurance product here: <a href="http://www.jesse-livermore.com/losing-money.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.jesse-livermore.com/losing-money.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesse-livermore.com/losing-money.html</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>And so bullion is <i>but the insurance policy against rotten paper</i>, not to be traded nor flipped... but <i>held dearly</i> against the Paper-Bug Lies. </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Retail buyers of bullion </b>shouldn't imagine they can quick trade(flip) it successfully, either. Imagining otherwise is pure folly. There will be no Jesse Livermore Winners in Gold, people. (Suicide traders: maybe.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Little eBayers aren't professional commodity traders either (and won't be) - the markets are different, eBay has never been illiquid and it's egregiously lying to assert <i>Paper Silver</i>/COMEX is the same dog. </p><p><br /></p><p>Back to the 1987 Silver Plunge - where the POS <i>is </i>a broader gauge - it remains useful to note & compare SIGNS of an Investor Death Spike. </p><p><br /></p><p><u>Unsustainable Rise</u></p><p>1a) The first red-flag (1987) was the ~60% rise in one month. Annualized, this rate of return would be 28,048%. </p><p>1b) In 2011, POS rose significantly. At ~22.12% per month February-April the annualized return would = 1,011%. </p><p><br /></p><p><u>Against Gold</u></p><p>2a) 1987: POS rose 3x faster than POG.</p><p>2b) 2011: POS rose 2.3x faster than POG.</p><p><u><br /></u></p><p><u>Market</u>: <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/commodities/8515001/What-caused-the-silver-price-spike-and-crash.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/commodities/8515001/What-caused-the-silver-price-spike-and-crash.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/commodities/8515001/What-caused-the-silver-price-spike-and-crash.html</a></p><p>3a) 1987: locked limit up (red flag, to evacuate) followed by locked limit down -- Cornered Mkt? --</p><p>3b) 2011: COMEX margin hikes (4) ; rumors of Chinese deflation -- "Cornered Mkt" JPM manipulation? --</p><p><br /></p><p><u>Institutional>Retail Interest:</u></p><p>4a) -- Reported --</p><p>4b) -- Possible, unknown -- (TBE)</p><p><br /></p><p><u>Rationale for PMs/ Fearful Economic Outlook:</u></p><p>5a) 1987: "faltering stock market, falling dollar and rising inflation" </p><p>5b) 2011: less favor to equities, fears of a falling dollar and rising inflation</p><p><br /></p><p><u>Market Peak:</u> (for 3-, 6-, 12+ Years)</p><p>6a) 1987: Short-, Medium- & Long Term, YES.</p><p>6b) 2011: Short term <i>unlikely</i> YES; Medium Term UNCERTAIN; Long Term, probably NO.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1608419, member: 41665"]I consider cloudsweeper99's off-topic garbage reply unworthy of response. (His red-herrings, misquotes, straw-men etc. = "garbage.") He replies (all too often) simply to be digressive & contentious, also. Gold is not equities, EOS. Jesse Livermore has been used to frame any number of opinions - he's been misquoted/misused but countless wannabe gurus and frauds forever, so I'm never surprised to see that again. Livermore also died broken by the mkt - suicide as a "failure" - but for annuities he wisely squirreled away in 1917. Insert advertisement for bullion-backed insurance product here: [URL]http://www.jesse-livermore.com/losing-money.html[/URL] And so bullion is [I]but the insurance policy against rotten paper[/I], not to be traded nor flipped... but [I]held dearly[/I] against the Paper-Bug Lies. [B]Retail buyers of bullion [/B]shouldn't imagine they can quick trade(flip) it successfully, either. Imagining otherwise is pure folly. There will be no Jesse Livermore Winners in Gold, people. (Suicide traders: maybe.) Little eBayers aren't professional commodity traders either (and won't be) - the markets are different, eBay has never been illiquid and it's egregiously lying to assert [I]Paper Silver[/I]/COMEX is the same dog. Back to the 1987 Silver Plunge - where the POS [I]is [/I]a broader gauge - it remains useful to note & compare SIGNS of an Investor Death Spike. [U]Unsustainable Rise[/U] 1a) The first red-flag (1987) was the ~60% rise in one month. Annualized, this rate of return would be 28,048%. 1b) In 2011, POS rose significantly. At ~22.12% per month February-April the annualized return would = 1,011%. [U]Against Gold[/U] 2a) 1987: POS rose 3x faster than POG. 2b) 2011: POS rose 2.3x faster than POG. [U] Market[/U]: [URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/commodities/8515001/What-caused-the-silver-price-spike-and-crash.html[/URL] 3a) 1987: locked limit up (red flag, to evacuate) followed by locked limit down -- Cornered Mkt? -- 3b) 2011: COMEX margin hikes (4) ; rumors of Chinese deflation -- "Cornered Mkt" JPM manipulation? -- [U]Institutional>Retail Interest:[/U] 4a) -- Reported -- 4b) -- Possible, unknown -- (TBE) [U]Rationale for PMs/ Fearful Economic Outlook:[/U] 5a) 1987: "faltering stock market, falling dollar and rising inflation" 5b) 2011: less favor to equities, fears of a falling dollar and rising inflation [U]Market Peak:[/U] (for 3-, 6-, 12+ Years) 6a) 1987: Short-, Medium- & Long Term, YES. 6b) 2011: Short term [I]unlikely[/I] YES; Medium Term UNCERTAIN; Long Term, probably NO.[/QUOTE]
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