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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1589507, member: 41665"]What is this coin, or rather... is it what I think it is? Hmm.</p><p><br /></p><p>From their website:</p><p>[ATTACH]221366.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Now it's no big secret that Sunshine Minting was COINING the Norfed Rounds/Dollars. But given Sunshine Minting's very significant relationship to the US Mint, this detail <i>prominently posted on their website </i>is very surprising to me. Isn't that abit like a licensed pharmaceutical company selling serious drugs on the side, to street-dealers? And brazenly advertising that, after a scandalous event? And that imbroglio didn't jeopardize the US Mint contract for all those AGE and ASE planchets they're supposedly still making for Uncle Sam??!</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm baffled by this: Sunshine Minting made the "illegal" Norfed coins, obviously. Did von NotHaus work <i>for/with </i>Sunshine, as a DBA? Did they cop a plea in the investigation ("We'll book whatever foreign planchets you want to call US product, chief!") ... or, where's the loophole here? </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2011/defendant-convicted-of-minting-his-own-currency" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2011/defendant-convicted-of-minting-his-own-currency" rel="nofollow">http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2011/defendant-convicted-of-minting-his-own-currency</a></p><p>>>3/18/2011: STATESVILLE, NC—<b>Bernard von NotHaus, 67, was convicted today by a federal jury of making, possessing, and selling his own coins</b>, announced Anne M. Tompkins, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of North Carolina. Following an eight-day trial and less than two hours of deliberation, von NotHaus, the founder and monetary architect of a currency known as the Liberty Dollar, was found guilty by a jury in Statesville, North Carolina, of making coins resembling and similar to United States coins; of issuing, passing, selling, and possessing Liberty Dollar coins; of issuing and passing Liberty Dollar coins intended for use as current money; and of conspiracy against the United States. The guilty verdict concluded an investigation which began in 2005 and involved the minting of Liberty Dollar coins with a current value of approximately $7 million.<<[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1589507, member: 41665"]What is this coin, or rather... is it what I think it is? Hmm. From their website: [ATTACH]221366.vB[/ATTACH] Now it's no big secret that Sunshine Minting was COINING the Norfed Rounds/Dollars. But given Sunshine Minting's very significant relationship to the US Mint, this detail [I]prominently posted on their website [/I]is very surprising to me. Isn't that abit like a licensed pharmaceutical company selling serious drugs on the side, to street-dealers? And brazenly advertising that, after a scandalous event? And that imbroglio didn't jeopardize the US Mint contract for all those AGE and ASE planchets they're supposedly still making for Uncle Sam??! I'm baffled by this: Sunshine Minting made the "illegal" Norfed coins, obviously. Did von NotHaus work [I]for/with [/I]Sunshine, as a DBA? Did they cop a plea in the investigation ("We'll book whatever foreign planchets you want to call US product, chief!") ... or, where's the loophole here? [URL]http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2011/defendant-convicted-of-minting-his-own-currency[/URL] >>3/18/2011: STATESVILLE, NC—[B]Bernard von NotHaus, 67, was convicted today by a federal jury of making, possessing, and selling his own coins[/B], announced Anne M. Tompkins, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of North Carolina. Following an eight-day trial and less than two hours of deliberation, von NotHaus, the founder and monetary architect of a currency known as the Liberty Dollar, was found guilty by a jury in Statesville, North Carolina, of making coins resembling and similar to United States coins; of issuing, passing, selling, and possessing Liberty Dollar coins; of issuing and passing Liberty Dollar coins intended for use as current money; and of conspiracy against the United States. The guilty verdict concluded an investigation which began in 2005 and involved the minting of Liberty Dollar coins with a current value of approximately $7 million.<<[/QUOTE]
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