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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1565480, member: 41665"]Clint-</p><p>We should be lucky. Or, have felt lucky even if we didn't know it then. The American Century was unprecedented, you must admit. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you want to know more about my background and outlook, fine. I'm no numismatist, I'm examining that. I'm an analyst/chartist from the financial service industry, with a particular focus on downside risk. I've only been studying global crises for about six years, but told clients (in 2003/4) I thought there'd be 'another crash' around 2007/8. From as early as 2001, I was reading Marc Faber, John Hussman, Peter Schiff, Nouriel Roubini, Prudent Bear Chat, Jesse's column and other bears online but remained allocated rather bullishly until 2007. Yes, I was also laughed at professionally for my heretical views - that didn't bother me. (I also heard the warning about the mortgage mess - but did not profit from that.) I added/allocated mkt-short ETFs into my portfolios through the last week in Februray 2009, then leapt aboard the Bull Market with Faber's call, huge gains in 2009. </p><p><br /></p><p>Despite good market calls (following or not following others!) I began to realize there's something much much deeper to THIS risk. Carefully parsing insiders' revelations that the banks were insolvent and our global economy was poised to evaporate in 2008, and the bailouts prevented that but were just <i>the third round of band-aids</i>, I looked beyond. Fed Chmn Greenspan bragging about his ability to tame the Kondratieff Winter (2002) and a Republican Prez on teevee bleating "I want all Americans to own a Home!" and then sending everyone checks in the mail (plus two- or three- trillion dollar wars, which rapidly reflated the mkts) was no bonanza ... it was a desperate attempt to stave off reality. That five-year reflationary effort FAILED in 2007: 85 year-old Bear Stearns and 158 year old Lehman Bros vaporized, the forced sale of 94-year old Merrill Lynch proves how bad it was. Wall Street was DOA. As Neel Kashkari said, without any exaggeration:</p><p><b>"If the federal government had limited TARP funds to banks that needed moderate assistance, <b>several </b>large banks would have failed, bringing down the financial system."</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b></b>There is it, blunt honest and simple. And nothing's been fixed. So how did we get here and how long will it last? My recent studies - looking back historically, 200 years - strongly suggest to me this is no cyclical Bear Mkt (many others realize that now, too.) In my opinion - not from anyone else - this is a 21-Year Super-Cycle Deflationary Crash than <i>began </i>in 2000 and won't end until 2020/2022. By Seven Year counts, 2014 will be a VERY BAD year for stocks - and probably witness extraordinary inflation as well. Again: that's just my read, looking back on two century of data. This is quite possibly the margin call on global capitalism. </p><p><br /></p><p>To the polyannas and perennial optimists I ask: what could they possibly do to reflate the markets now? Tax cuts won't, obv: that myth is long dead. Bush's plan in 2000 (originally the CATO Institute's, now Ryan's) to privatize Social Security <i>would be </i>a godsend to my industry, a last hurrah for financial svcs... and then, finally and permanently wipe out what remains of the illusion of Americans' wealth. Why? It's no fix. Most "investors" will cash out and head straight to the casinos or Walmart as severe inflation takes hold. That what I think: the Perfect Storm is arriving in 2014-17.</p><p><br /></p><p>Today, old folks still imagine they'll get full pensions and Social Security - sad delusion, not in the Debt Jubilee they won't. My point here? Little people and the rich alike will look to park any residual savings outside of Burning Paper. As Wall Street Paper investments fail at last (and I don't mean -50% declines) the Game is almost over. We're at the end of our tether, there's no more road to kick the can down. The US is in a fiduciary/fiscal bind: raise taxes? Raise bond yields? No, and the nations of the world won't look to the USA for advice or safe-haven as defaults loom. Treasury bonds and the Dollar will collapse in quick succession -what 'monetary instrument' remains, as Paper (stocks, bonds and Dollars) burns? </p><p><br /></p><p>The Indians and the Chinese buy Gold. They are 2.5 bln of the ~7 bln people on the planet. So I consider Gold a safer bet than the Dollar, but you're right: ALL assets have <i>risk</i>. Buying abit of bullion (Ag, Au, Pt, Pd and Rh) on any sharp declines makes alot more sense than anything else. Look for LOW PREMIUMS and -10%/15% declines as opportunities to build abit of real-asset savings.</p><p><br /></p><p>Collecting coins? For FUN, yes, and maybe to teach children about money generally. But avoid any collectibles at full retail or dealer markups, and look to pay as little as possible. The US collectible market certainly won't improve until Americans' personal finances do. Don't hold your breath, chief. A 28-year Bear Market in (US) numismatic coin values would not surprise me at all, given this (my) Big Picture. The middle- and low-end of the market might already be racing towards scrap. But look on the bright side: it's a great time to start collecting when everyone else starts SELLING. That hasn't happened yet.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1565480, member: 41665"]Clint- We should be lucky. Or, have felt lucky even if we didn't know it then. The American Century was unprecedented, you must admit. If you want to know more about my background and outlook, fine. I'm no numismatist, I'm examining that. I'm an analyst/chartist from the financial service industry, with a particular focus on downside risk. I've only been studying global crises for about six years, but told clients (in 2003/4) I thought there'd be 'another crash' around 2007/8. From as early as 2001, I was reading Marc Faber, John Hussman, Peter Schiff, Nouriel Roubini, Prudent Bear Chat, Jesse's column and other bears online but remained allocated rather bullishly until 2007. Yes, I was also laughed at professionally for my heretical views - that didn't bother me. (I also heard the warning about the mortgage mess - but did not profit from that.) I added/allocated mkt-short ETFs into my portfolios through the last week in Februray 2009, then leapt aboard the Bull Market with Faber's call, huge gains in 2009. Despite good market calls (following or not following others!) I began to realize there's something much much deeper to THIS risk. Carefully parsing insiders' revelations that the banks were insolvent and our global economy was poised to evaporate in 2008, and the bailouts prevented that but were just [I]the third round of band-aids[/I], I looked beyond. Fed Chmn Greenspan bragging about his ability to tame the Kondratieff Winter (2002) and a Republican Prez on teevee bleating "I want all Americans to own a Home!" and then sending everyone checks in the mail (plus two- or three- trillion dollar wars, which rapidly reflated the mkts) was no bonanza ... it was a desperate attempt to stave off reality. That five-year reflationary effort FAILED in 2007: 85 year-old Bear Stearns and 158 year old Lehman Bros vaporized, the forced sale of 94-year old Merrill Lynch proves how bad it was. Wall Street was DOA. As Neel Kashkari said, without any exaggeration: [B]"If the federal government had limited TARP funds to banks that needed moderate assistance, [B]several [/B]large banks would have failed, bringing down the financial system." [/B]There is it, blunt honest and simple. And nothing's been fixed. So how did we get here and how long will it last? My recent studies - looking back historically, 200 years - strongly suggest to me this is no cyclical Bear Mkt (many others realize that now, too.) In my opinion - not from anyone else - this is a 21-Year Super-Cycle Deflationary Crash than [I]began [/I]in 2000 and won't end until 2020/2022. By Seven Year counts, 2014 will be a VERY BAD year for stocks - and probably witness extraordinary inflation as well. Again: that's just my read, looking back on two century of data. This is quite possibly the margin call on global capitalism. To the polyannas and perennial optimists I ask: what could they possibly do to reflate the markets now? Tax cuts won't, obv: that myth is long dead. Bush's plan in 2000 (originally the CATO Institute's, now Ryan's) to privatize Social Security [I]would be [/I]a godsend to my industry, a last hurrah for financial svcs... and then, finally and permanently wipe out what remains of the illusion of Americans' wealth. Why? It's no fix. Most "investors" will cash out and head straight to the casinos or Walmart as severe inflation takes hold. That what I think: the Perfect Storm is arriving in 2014-17. Today, old folks still imagine they'll get full pensions and Social Security - sad delusion, not in the Debt Jubilee they won't. My point here? Little people and the rich alike will look to park any residual savings outside of Burning Paper. As Wall Street Paper investments fail at last (and I don't mean -50% declines) the Game is almost over. We're at the end of our tether, there's no more road to kick the can down. The US is in a fiduciary/fiscal bind: raise taxes? Raise bond yields? No, and the nations of the world won't look to the USA for advice or safe-haven as defaults loom. Treasury bonds and the Dollar will collapse in quick succession -what 'monetary instrument' remains, as Paper (stocks, bonds and Dollars) burns? The Indians and the Chinese buy Gold. They are 2.5 bln of the ~7 bln people on the planet. So I consider Gold a safer bet than the Dollar, but you're right: ALL assets have [I]risk[/I]. Buying abit of bullion (Ag, Au, Pt, Pd and Rh) on any sharp declines makes alot more sense than anything else. Look for LOW PREMIUMS and -10%/15% declines as opportunities to build abit of real-asset savings. Collecting coins? For FUN, yes, and maybe to teach children about money generally. But avoid any collectibles at full retail or dealer markups, and look to pay as little as possible. The US collectible market certainly won't improve until Americans' personal finances do. Don't hold your breath, chief. A 28-year Bear Market in (US) numismatic coin values would not surprise me at all, given this (my) Big Picture. The middle- and low-end of the market might already be racing towards scrap. But look on the bright side: it's a great time to start collecting when everyone else starts SELLING. That hasn't happened yet.[/QUOTE]
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