First Spouse gold...Are they Bullion or Collectibles??

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Curio Bill, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. Levi

    Levi Member

    Nice set!

    Now that the Liberty sub-set is decidedly done and over we can look to see what happens to premiums in the future. Only 4, 334 complete sets in existence. Congratulations to those of you who have completed it.

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    Liberty Spouse Mintages
    Proof
    Unc
    Total

    2007 Thomas Jefferson's Liberty
    20,000
    20,000
    40,000

    2008 Andrew Jackson’s Liberty
    7,806
    7,754
    12,560

    2008 Martin Van Buren’s Liberty
    7,515
    4,334
    11,849

    2010 James Buchanan’s Liberty
    7,304
    5,348
    12,652
    [/TABLE]










    Relative to some other coins in the series, Mary Todd Lincoln is now sold out completely with sales somewhere around 6,903 Proof and 3,760 Uncirculated. I expected higher mintage for this one.

    I keep looking at the Julia Grant coin, just because I think it's nicely done.

    Alice Paul will be released early 2012. I'm curious to see what sales end up with this one.
    I do wish a fifth coin in the Liberty sub-series was designed instead of the Alice Paul coin. Aside from those collecting the full series, I can't fathom who may purchase this one.
    A 2012 Chester Arthur's Indian Head Liberty Coin would have been a winner, as well as a beautiful coin.
     
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  3. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I agree that the Indian Head Liberty would make a great addition to the Liberty Series...from a Numismatic perspective. However, in the 21st century, some may take offense to the image of an Indian headdress plopped on top of Lady Liberty like a victory scalp with the banner "LIBERTY" written across it.

    What were the Indians "liberated" from? ...or does it mean that westward settlers were liberated from recognizing earlier Indian treaties? I don't quite understand what "Liberty" means in this context. :scratch:


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  4. Ladies First

    Ladies First Since 2007

    It was meant to be taken ironically.

    To all the sub-set fans; have no fear, your 5th Liberty will appear!
     
  5. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    "James Buchanan was the fourth...designed after the Liberty Head Gold Eagle of the time. . . "

    When I finish up some projects I'm going to buy a Jefferson spouse coin. (I wonder why it seems to sell for significantly less than many other issues?)
    From the little I know about this set the Jefferson my favorite.
    Anybody know of a single source where I can view all of the spouse coins currently released?
     
  6. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    You're a poet and don't even know it! :D
     
  7. Levi

    Levi Member

    I don't know, yak. I didn't think of it in that regard. I thought of it in an inclusive way, not from a domination perspective.
    I don't see an uproar about the buffalo coin.
    :scratch:

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  8. claygump

    claygump New Member

    Alice Paul? WTF? :confused:
    "Her appearance within the series is specifically required under the Presidential $1 Coin Act, which mentions that she born during the Presidency of Chester Arthur."

    Really? Since she was born during his term and she was instrumental in the suffragist movement she is on the coin? This is ridicules. My Grandma was born the Coolidge era, can she get a coin too?

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  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Primarily, I suppose, because the mintage of all four first-year issues is several times higher than most of the subsequent issues.
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    liberty from collecting the FS. darn what a life
     
  11. fatima

    fatima Junior Member

    I seem to remember the Mint ending the sales of the Van Buren and Jackson coin a little earlier than expected which caught collectors by surprise. There was no urgency in these coins given how the prices of the Jefferson coin went. When that happened was a mad scramble to acquire these coins, because there were so few of them, and prices went up quickly.

    Since those days, the spot price of gold has gone up 100% and the economy is so much worse. It makes collecting this series of coins difficult for many. There is a big difference in paying $450 for a coin and paying over $1000 for one.
     
  12. dave92029

    dave92029 Member


    I totally agree.

    I wish that the Mint would assess the same Percentage premium on their Gold coins as they have on their Silver coins. The Gold premiums, on top of the ever increasing spot price, make these coins very difficult to collect. It takes a big increase in spot to off set the Mint's premium, which makes owning these coins vs other PM options a difficult choice and an ever decreasing collector base.
     
  13. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Hey Spock! You keeping up (except for the one you missed?)
     
  14. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    well fortunately for me my friend knows where yakpoo lives so i will just ask him to go and borrow from yakpoo if we cant afford it on a non returnable basis though :)
     
  15. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    more like huffing and puffing my way through. i am in a serious cash crunch and our dear friend is the only one standing between me and the end. but yes thanks to him i am still in the ring without missing out on any more.
     
  16. holz

    holz holz

    With all the 25th eagle stuff I nocited today that Mary Lincoln is soldout.
     
  17. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Yep...you and me both! I've started a new career after 30 years (at the worst possible time) and I'm working and studying like crazy just to keep up...but it's all good! :D

    Keep up the good fight! :cheers:
     
  18. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    congratulations. any tips on starting a new career? my old one ended and there isnt a new one in sight?
     
  19. I never questioned the mint made money.I think its about all they make.I also thought the mint was a goverment thing and never saw where they were in it for profit.The usa post office dosent make a profit and it was never intended that they did.What purpose can you point out that it helps anyone for them to profit from the makeing of coins?They are already goverment funded through us the taxpayer.Who gets the profit and where is our share of it as we fund all the govement programs?
     
  20. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    yes the socialist versus capitalist debate there have always been people on both sides of the fence. i think the mints comem division should be of the collector for the collector by the collector personally
     
  21. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    " . . . What purpose can you point out that it helps anyone for them to profit from the makeing of coins?They are already goverment funded through us the taxpayer.Who gets the profit and where is our share of it as we fund all the government programs? . . . "

    I assume if they make a profit that's less tax dollars they need to fund mint activities.
     
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