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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 8147428, member: 105098"]I dunno, in a crash scenario, there certainly will be people looking for gold or silver in exchange for goods, but it's more of a store of wealth than it is a transnational currency, I think it would revert to barter, I have this, you have that, be it tools or labor, or knowledge, and an agreement is struck to where both parties get what they want. </p><p><br /></p><p>I mean, you can't live in silver or gold, you can't eat it, if everything crashes, it's the ones that have a trade or skill and tools or knowledge to grow or gather food that have something everyone wants and will trade for, not the guy with some merc dimes.</p><p><br /></p><p>But yes, once basic needs are met and you have shops and shopkeepers and "extras" then you'd have the need to store wealth, and people wanting coin of some sort to store the wealth beyond their needs, you wouldnt want 250 pounds of beef sitting around going bad let's say, so then silver or gold comes into play..... If I have all needs met, nothing I want, I have abundance, sure I'll take some gold or silver in exchange for the extra I have, but let's say I need roof work done and don't have tool or material, better believe I'm going to exchange food for the roof work instead of silver. Silver might not get me what I need, but food or service to exchange is more powerful a tool.</p><p><br /></p><p>this is why most of the "collapse" stories don't hit on the economy side of things beyond the collapse, because reality is, there isn't much of one and most of it's person to person barter for a long time until there is a structure set up and in place and a market of some sort, and a bank, and ect. it's kind of "down the road" after the dust is well settled. </p><p><br /></p><p>I mean, in middle of nowhere Alaska, sure you can buy some things if you travel to a store, but trading something for something else with neighbors is huge even nowadays because money won't keep you safe, fed and warm, even if it's labor for labor, or labor for tool, or tool for tool, ect. ect. that's what gets everyone over the hump. </p><p><br /></p><p>And seriously, I have no earthly idea what the bottle caps thing is about and don't think it would ever be a thing in real life,,, unless water were scarce and they were valued for capping off bottles full of water. still makes no sense really it's a useless item I can't imagine people would want or need for anything.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 8147428, member: 105098"]I dunno, in a crash scenario, there certainly will be people looking for gold or silver in exchange for goods, but it's more of a store of wealth than it is a transnational currency, I think it would revert to barter, I have this, you have that, be it tools or labor, or knowledge, and an agreement is struck to where both parties get what they want. I mean, you can't live in silver or gold, you can't eat it, if everything crashes, it's the ones that have a trade or skill and tools or knowledge to grow or gather food that have something everyone wants and will trade for, not the guy with some merc dimes. But yes, once basic needs are met and you have shops and shopkeepers and "extras" then you'd have the need to store wealth, and people wanting coin of some sort to store the wealth beyond their needs, you wouldnt want 250 pounds of beef sitting around going bad let's say, so then silver or gold comes into play..... If I have all needs met, nothing I want, I have abundance, sure I'll take some gold or silver in exchange for the extra I have, but let's say I need roof work done and don't have tool or material, better believe I'm going to exchange food for the roof work instead of silver. Silver might not get me what I need, but food or service to exchange is more powerful a tool. this is why most of the "collapse" stories don't hit on the economy side of things beyond the collapse, because reality is, there isn't much of one and most of it's person to person barter for a long time until there is a structure set up and in place and a market of some sort, and a bank, and ect. it's kind of "down the road" after the dust is well settled. I mean, in middle of nowhere Alaska, sure you can buy some things if you travel to a store, but trading something for something else with neighbors is huge even nowadays because money won't keep you safe, fed and warm, even if it's labor for labor, or labor for tool, or tool for tool, ect. ect. that's what gets everyone over the hump. And seriously, I have no earthly idea what the bottle caps thing is about and don't think it would ever be a thing in real life,,, unless water were scarce and they were valued for capping off bottles full of water. still makes no sense really it's a useless item I can't imagine people would want or need for anything.[/QUOTE]
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